what was involved to get em to fit

 

Just a spanner and a socket

 

i was thinking the same

cossiecrew whats the problem like ?

 

oh ive been told that YOU WILL NEED TO TURRET THE REARS to get them to fit hence why avo dont supply rear coilovers in the kit ?

 

dont go quite on me now lads

 

most kits come with telescopic rears and lowering springs. The turrets are not designed to take the load that a coilover puts on them so all the kit manafacturers insist you strengthen the rear if you want to fit a complet kit. Not seen one done myslef unfortunatley but I would think someone like Zoo Motorsport would be able to help you out here

 

cheers mate i understand a rear brace is needed someone must be able to give me a 100% answer

 

i'd like more info on this too, pics especially *hint hint* cos i want coilovers for my RS16i, and would prefer to alter the rear strut tops now if required before it goes into the paintshop.

 

Ours are designed to fit with NO mods whatsoever. We use thickwalled CDS tubing for the casings, and a specially designed top spring cup.

 

cheers NUTS RuS.

 

you would of thought these other companys would design 1s that fit aswell wouldnt you realy im more than gutted

 

up im now hearing mixed responses just been told the 4 coilover setup will fit but advised to use rear brace and seam weld the turrets anyone give me a 100% definate

 

I'd like to know a defo answer as mines still sat on springs as was advised ...... Been told to fit a rear strut brace but haven't managed to find one

 

Sorry I have mislead you I think

Some coilovers will fit straight onto the mk3/4 escort without need to modify anything at all.
However it is advisable to at least strengthen the top mounts at the turrets.
With a specailly modified top hat, the GAZ kits will fit with full height adjustment, and a slightly smaller diameter spring.
I can do this kit at the same price as the others, with the top hat.
The minimum requirement for the suspension to work properly is a rear strut brace/ brace bar.
The ideal requirement would be to Turret the rears (seam weld or at least re-strengthen).

 

Got leda rear coilovers on the s1, theres no modifications to the rear turrets, the rear arms, although i am going to fit a rear brace before its back on the road.

 

ive had gaz and now got bilsteins
both fit straight on
im using a rear strut brace

 

Ran the mig round mine and put a piece of 1/4 in walled corous steel pipe between my turrets,seems to be holding ok so far.

 

Before I changed to proper Bilsteins on the rear I ran relativly sucessfully (on a Mk4) with either standard Motorcraft dampers converted with coilover tubes, or Koni adjustables again converted with coilover tubes.

The car had no seam welding or rear strut brace in place and sucessfully competed in over 100 stage rally's.

The main issue I had was that both would bend down at the bottom where it goes into the hub if I hit any sort of rough road going sideways at speed.

The Konis were FAR worse at doing this and I must have got through about 15 of them, I approached Koni at a trade show to see if they could help and they just fobbed me off and told me tough, if you think you can do any better then go and do it

The conversion was done to a standard unit by placing the correct sized threaded sleeve over the original strut and tack welding it in place. An extended steel top hat was made to hold the spring in place and fit it all back up into the turret. Cost was less than Ł80 (back then).

Not once did the turrets try to rip apart, split, crack or do anything of the kind - and this was a well used motorsport car remember.

Learning and observing from the motorsport use what was happening to the spring top mounts, these were then modded further by MEF, to assist in shock loadings. These new units are still being used today on my car (which is seam welded and braced - just for my safety). The casings used now are thick walled CDS tubing coupled with inverted Bilstein dampers, this has completely overcome the bending issues.

Make of that what you will...... its just a "for info" post

Oh and here's my old car

 

Good advice there. So are there significant improvements from running this set up?

 

cheers nutsrs all infos good matey

 

Which set up ?

Most of it is in your head Keith, but the times did come down with a half decent set-up yes. At the end of the day its still a compromise set-up Im running now. The car handles well on the stages and is still comfortable to drive on the road.

cossiecrew

 

About 4 years back Ahmed B was working on a multi link set up for the rear using coil overs -couldnt be too hard to come up with yourself - why not get something like that drawn up, made and sold to like minded souls on here?

 

Been doing the Gp A rear end for over 2 years now Keith (if that was for me).

 

you mean the same as what ive got and what MEF produce?

 

Keith B, check this link out mate https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107112