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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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tried one again and same as before, car ran crap and cut out all the time and wouldnt idle

ive been told its not the dump valve but the car and if it rejects one thenur best just to be without. I was also told that u need to increase the boost for it to work but im not touching it.

Enlighten the ignorant..what can i do cos i really want my car to have one but im not fucking about with it if u know what i mean
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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think even your car is telling you that there gay and thats why hes rejecting them
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Tbh i would not fit one to it ,but are you trying the same one as before or a different one ,prob got an air leak somewhere
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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whats a seal lol
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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What dump valve habe you tried, and when u say car runs badly, what does it do? Boost has nothing to do with it.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by davS2
whats a seal lol
Honestly mate?
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Oh try a Baileys DV24 they're ment to cure any cutting out and lumpy running issues

I just sold one aswell,jessica simpson lookalikes would have got a discount
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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you need some thing like a bailey dump valve must be a dv26 cos its a twin piston which seal the intake system when not on boost . if it lets in air then your car will stall etc
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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the dv 24 is for cars with out a air flow sensor and the dv 26 is for cars with ie esc rst
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Whoops! Knew it was one or the other.Shite anyway IMO
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Don't fit one. They're
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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do dump valves have any performance gains at all?

my friend keeps telling me to put one on my car but im put off by the noise.

he seems to think it will reduce lag and preserve the turbo...?
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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dump valves dont give any performance gains and is only worth getting if your running over 20lbs of boost. Although they do is make your car jerk but if you really want one and as somebody said above the dv26 baileys dump valve is probably the best one and if you dont fancy cutting your original boost hose buy a samco boost hose with the dump valve outlet.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dave_y
do dump valves have any performance gains at all?

my friend keeps telling me to put one on my car but im put off by the noise.

he seems to think it will reduce lag and preserve the turbo...?
That's just the bullshit that the MaxPower pricks beleive and quote at you in the pub. On a monster car with huge turbo and loads of boost yes on a road car with a turbo smaller than T4 or less than 30psi there is no need for one whatso ever.

I had the twin piston Bailey on mine and although it was hugely better than the diaphragm unit I was using it was still a huge improvement when it was binned. I will not be fitting one unless I absolutely have to.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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people put them on more for the 'tischhh' noise than anything else. like its been said not much need for it really unless running massive boost pressures!! me on the other hand like a good wastegate chatter
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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I got one on mine but its well quite the car runs 22psi .
When i had it set up at jamsport they t pieced the tube to the inlet and ran a tube down to the fuel pressure regulator ? car runs abit crap when i take it off
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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sounds like an air leak julia, i have for sale on ebay brand new never been
used if you need a new one
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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mst be a twin piston chump valve J, anything else (single piston or diaphragm) is gonna cause probs (saying that any dump valve will cause probs eventually lol)

incae your fitting it wrongly. . .

inlet manifold vacum take off. . piece of hose bout 4" long, T piece onto the other end, bottom of the T piece to dump valve, righthand side of T piece too ECU (and makesure the vacum hose isnt old/brittle/split as the ECU takes a vacum reading from this hose so any defects will cause poor running. makesure all hose is secure and tight fitting, use cable ties if possible. ANY leak will cause the car to idle rough/stall!

I suggest a trip to Glasgow and a set up at AVA (and i'l guarantee you'll drive away with a smile on your face!, if not we'll arange summik else joke )
TBH if you REALLY want a dump valv fitted, then go ahead, but theyre only a gimmick, wont preserve your turbo (unless T4 or above size with loads of boost as said) or make it faster or reduce lag

other thing i can think of if your having probs with the above all fitted proper and not split hose is the dump valve is fooked (if it is the same one you tried to fit)

Has the car got any other mods?

Hope you get it to work ya wee poser
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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When i had it set up at jamsport they t pieced the tube to the inlet and ran a tube down to the fuel pressure regulator ? car runs abit crap when i take it off
Do you find that u need quite a lot of boost before it will sound?
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Dont bother with a dump valve,theyre only a load of w*nk on an RST,regards Micky
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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me on the other hand like a good wastegate chatter
Could somebody please explain "wastegate chatter" i don't see how/what this is.

Sorry if this is off topic, i've heard this said a few times and don't understand..

I think flump valves are a tad a gay, but i do stick mine on every few months as i like the noise
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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Manchester Mike, lol gets up my nose too when ppl say wastegate chatter but sick of correctin em

IT'S COMPRESSOR STALL
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
When i had it set up at jamsport they t pieced the tube to the inlet and ran a tube down to the fuel pressure regulator ? car runs abit crap when i take it off
Do you find that u need quite a lot of boost before it will sound?
Yes wont sound unless im on 10psi + its a revotec dumper i do wanna take it off.
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