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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Help! I want to upgrade the brakes on my s2 rs turbo does anyone no of any good conversions?? I would like to get disk's on the rear as well if it is possible?

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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AP 4 pots 330mm bells are rotors











Or, before that I had 2wd Cosworth discs and re- conditions S2 calipers on the front, with 2wd Cosworth discs on the rear, and a mate said that my brakes were as good as his AP 4 pots on his Saph. They were very good brakes for not a lot of money. Just make sure you have taken off the ABS, that will make your brakes a whole load better.

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Where is the best place to pick sierra brake cailpers?? with they work with the abs on ??
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Ebay, or breakers on here?

Remove the ABS mate, no point in fitting bigger brakes and keeping the ABS in my opinion.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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AP are the daddies of brakes but the ST170 Focus conversion works very well and gives you a pair of 300mm discs

As Tony says bin the ABS as it's utter shite
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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what about the front disk's can u change them to cosworth brakes... what mk cossy do i have to get them off? or do u no of any company's that do these kits? what the biggest u can get on the standard wheels??
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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I have just had a set of focus RS discs and calipers fitted



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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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do they bolt straight on mate
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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They go straight on all you need is some brackets from Z00 Motorsport

email address info@ZooMotorsport.co.uk

telephone number 01384 413683
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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thanks for that, by the way, what colour wheels did you go for.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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i am going to have them done in black

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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How do you no weather they went straight on lee you never fitted them.


See ya later mate
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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i saw theese recently but thought it was toomuch money.....http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=7984650793
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I've gone for ST170 300MM Front setup, and Cossie 283mm? rear setup, abs removed. Loves it.



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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dave green
How do you no weather they went straight on lee you never fitted them.


See ya later mate


O.K then Dave Green said they went straight on
as he fitted them
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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st170 front set up, grooved and green stuff pads, rear discs and calipers off sierra xr4i ... had quite a lot of probs bleeding the system, ie bad pedal. make sure all of your brakes other system is in good condition ie servo master cylinder hoses etc.

i also have stainless steel goodridge hoses.

after 500 miles of bedding them in and then a track day they are awsome, however the rear end is a bit twitchy under sh!t your pant braking situations lol but controled brakeing is very good.

cost £210 for brand new st170 calipers from this bb, £144 for grooved discs and green stuff pads.

i had brand new rear pads fitted as well as that gave a much better pedal feel as it was a bit low.

ive also fitted a brand new master cylinder and servo as mine was leaking a bit
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Don't forget you may need bigger sized wheels than the standard 15".... (or do you ?)
Don't 4x4 Cos calipers fit under standard rims, coupled with Cos discs ?
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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AP's are the BEST imo, but im going for brembo 4 pots

These are the same as the FRS ones but of an alfa, can get them cheap from scrappies

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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
Don't forget you may need bigger sized wheels than the standard 15".... (or do you ?)
Don't 4x4 Cos calipers fit under standard rims, coupled with Cos discs ?
st170 set up does need 16" wheels
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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anyone got the hi-spec ones?? there fairly cheap... wanted some opinions on them.

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:26 AM
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I have a hi spec set up on the front of mine..No probs work very well..abs is still on tho..
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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i went for the cossie conversion wit green stuff pads, works wel

however i was told not to bother with the rear conversion, told not worth the while
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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I have 295mm fronts under standard 15" rims with lightweight alloy 4 pot calipers. All those Brembo/Cossie conversions etc weighed faaaaarrr too much for me

Rears are standard non vented sierra discs and calipers

All fits under standard rims with no mods, and I get bruised shoulders from the seat belts after competition
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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NUTS RuS,dont suppose yourself or MEF have a price for supplying that front brake set up you have on youre rally car???Regards Micky
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
I have 295mm fronts under standard 15" rims with lightweight alloy 4 pot calipers. All those Brembo/Cossie conversions etc weighed faaaaarrr too much for me

Rears are standard non vented sierra discs and calipers

All fits under standard rims with no mods, and I get bruised shoulders from the seat belts after competition
tony what rear wheel bearings do u use? standard escort?
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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rswoza,i too have standard non vented sierra discs and calipers on my RST and use standard RST bearings,i know you asked Tony,but hope that info helps you,regards Micky
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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cheers micky, have u got much play in them?

ive done a track day and had to go through scrutineering at a local 1/4 mile sprint and they said my rear bearings were suspect i even thought there was a bit of movement but i noticed this after i poly bushed the whole of the rear end.... just wondered what yours are like mate
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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NUTS RuS,dont suppose yourself or MEF have a price for supplying that front brake set up you have on youre rally car???Regards Micky
Everythings brand new so 295mm discs with alloy bells, brand new lightweight alloy cipers, mounting brackets, pads, nuts bolts etc come to around £650 Micky.

rswoza - bearings are completely standard Motorcraft items mate. I built them up into standard hubs about 8 years ago, ran them on my mk4 ralycar for about 50 events then transfered them into the Mk3 when I built it. They just get re greased twice a year thats all mate. Never caused a problem.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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thanks tony, so u could say there bullit proof
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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rswoza,long story this,so bear with me ,when i 1st fitted the rear bearings i followed the Haynes manual to the letter,used a torque wrench etc so i know i did it all correct.Well on 1st track day after 2 sessions I noticed play in the rear wheel,so I tightened up the bearing bit by bit till the play came out of them.All was good for 700 track miles until i got total bearing failure on the back drivers side hub.I posted about this on here a few weeks ago.Stripped down the hub to find the bearings on the outer side had all melted into each other and the inner race they ran on weled itself onto the stub axle!!!I couldnt remove it and had to get a 2nd hand one from a scrappie!!So now Im in the process of refitting everything and hope thats the last time i get this problem.
I really dont know why it happened as the passenger side is still ok (but i replaced the bearings just in case after the failure on the drivers side!) as i did both sides the same day and in the same way .If i was you id keep an eye on youre rear bearings just in case,but if Tony says they last for ever he is probally right as his rally car must get 10 times more stress into the wheel bearings than my car ever would!!

Tony,thanks for the price etc,if youre at National Day I'll pop over to see youre set up and ask a few questions if you dont mind.

Regards Micky
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No probs micky any time

rswoza - have been bullet proof for me yes Are you having a problem ?
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