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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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Just wanted to know who is right between my mate and i. The question is an Escort cossie with say 250 bhp and an Escort cab turbo with 250 bhp who would win a 0-60 or 1/4 mile run?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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imo
0-60 esccos
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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or a 190 bhp rst v std 2wd saph??????????

not being funny,im just curious
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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depends were you race


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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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std 2wd saph??????????
is there still any going round?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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if there is they are prob priced too high to race anyway
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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RST would kick the ar5e of a 2wd saff in everything at the same power. I reckon it would be a pretty safe bet between a 330bhp saff and a 250bhp RST, that the one with 4 doors would be looking at the rear of the one with 3!!
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Oli's escort cos was standard and faster than your's over 0-60 and 1/4 mile C&B

FACTOMUNDO....
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Oli's escort cos was standard and faster than your's over 0-60 and 1/4 mile C&B

FACTOMUNDO....
Evening Dingy.

Anyone seen Mystic Meg?? I think the outcome of this thread is somewhat predictable.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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An Escos is always going to have better Standing start acceleration, but from a 40mph Rolling Start, I think you would still need 100bhp on top of the Escos to whoop the Bean Tin.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
std 2wd saph??????????
is there still any going round?
I have a std 2wd saph

until 7th august when its going to stu @ msd
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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me too at the moment
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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C&B why was his time faster @ pod then

I am past caring bout bean tin's and speed since one the the best RST's in the country aint been picked for TOTB III

Just goes to show it aint the best cars, its who you know....
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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same as everythin in life, its a barsteward init
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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So what i am really after is i have a hopefully 300+ bhp escort cossie and he has a escort cabriolet turbo with a zvh conversion running nearly 250bhp so he reckons so who would win?????
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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[quote="dingy"]C&B why was his time faster @ pod then

I am past caring bout bean tin's and speed since one the the best RST's in the country [quote]

which one Dingy??
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ian rst
So what i am really after is i have a hopefully 300+ bhp escort cossie and he has a escort cabriolet turbo with a zvh conversion running nearly 250bhp so he reckons so who would win?????
Take em to the pod and fine out
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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Personally I would have thought the Cossie would have far more torque being a larger 16v engine?
Was in a stage one 2wd saphire cossie the other night and it murdered an RST all the way through the gears. Obviously I dont know the state of tune of the RST but it wasnt in the same league as the cossie.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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Personally I would have thought the Cossie would have far more torque being a larger 16v engine?
Was in a stage one 2wd saphire cossie the other night and it murdered an RST all the way through the gears. Obviously I dont know the state of tune of the RST but it wasnt in the same league as the cossie.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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the escos would wipe the escort.

more grip, more power, better terminals, and better all around.

Take your mate to the pod and show him whose the daddy.

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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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if we talkin same power @ wheels then beantin is only faster coz it weighs less...

make the esccos weigh as much as the beantin and they both got same power at wheels then esccos will win due to superior (i assume) aerodynamics, and MUCH better traction...
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
if we talkin same power @ wheels then beantin is only faster coz it weighs less...

make the esccos weigh as much as the beantin and they both got same power at wheels then esccos will win due to superior (i assume) aerodynamics, and MUCH better traction...
Agree to a point Jimbo but the Esc COs is 4x4 so will suffer greater transmission losses the the bean tin.

I would say the Cos will launch harder and with less fuss than the bean tin and My money would be firmly on the Cossie to 60mph over the 1/4 I would say the RST
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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I used to have a 210bhp RST both my mates had standard Esc Cos's and they would beat me from standing start all way to top speed, I could just hold em in 3rd n 4th if rolling.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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seve, aye agree about transmissions losses, hence why i said power at the wheels... as this is AFTER the tranns losses are taken into account
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Allright Jim don't go getting all clever on us
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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me? clever? dont be fookin stupid

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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Yeah i would like to take it out on the pod i just want to shut him up the way he talks about it you would think his is the fastest ever.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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By the way Jim did you have your car featured in Fast Ford down in Herne Bay???
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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IIRC the esc cos gets more drag than an ERST
A REAL 250Bhp in a esc cab would prob snap it clean in half and if it did haver that much power it wouldnt be going round corners too quick!
From a standing start i can see the cos getting a much better start as it has 4X4 but once rolling the RST 'should' be able to catch up quickly and 'have it' easily by the 1/4 mile marker
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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ian... no i didnt...

i've had two events featured in PF for my old 4xs but noting with the 4i (or in wankford magazine)
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Milko Pete
I used to have a 210bhp RST both my mates had standard Esc Cos's and they would beat me from standing start all way to top speed, I could just hold em in 3rd n 4th if rolling.
Not being funny, but you sure it was 210bhp?
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Originally Posted by peachyminx

Take em to the pod and fine out
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