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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Basically my header tank (alloy spec r ) gets absolutly ROASTING HOT can hardly touch and get a fair bit of pressure if tryin to open cap but is not that bad if let my fans go off, and if i have been giving it some i.e 120ish+ it seems to be spraying water from somewhere ? is defo coming from header tank i.e cap fans come on as usual and go off , and car drives and runs great but this water temp thing is puzzling and annoying the tits off me temp sits between O and R on guage when driving round it is stage 3 with pace rs500 cooler , so any ideas guys on this could it be anything to do with my rad

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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possible head gasket failure at worst or header tank cap worn out at best !!!
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Basically tonight i put my mates cap on (same cap) mines made a horrible squeeking noise on tightening and his went on without any of that but didnt go out a run but mines looks fine ? would this make a difference on pressure guys i find it strange that cap would be a big deal

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Yeah Rab I had a fucked cap on the grey car and it was similar to what you describe mate, swapped it for another and all was fine
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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The cap is NOT just a cap !!!

It is a pressure relief valve aswell and when it wears, it releases pressure and water TOO soon.

They are only £2.99 from ford
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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r u being serious on this post the header tank is hot to touch once I've given the car some come on man thats like saying "why cant I touch the exhaust manifold to remove the nuts once I've started it" change the cap lol
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Yeah does sound stupid , no but think its just TOOOOO HOT does the ford water caps fit the spec r alloy header tank ? mines is kind of dark blue in colour
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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If you dont replace the cap you may well find that when you next undo it , it will fall apart. Mine did that. The cap came of but the bit inside with the rubber sealing ring was stuck on the tank neck LOL
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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What kind of tank did u have gazcos , what kind of cap do i need do i need a spec r one or bailey ? my friend has a bailey tank and his cap is identical
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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I cant remember without looking. Its not the one in my siggy, its on my Saph but it uses a standard Ford cap . The tank on my 3 door was a Bailey one and used a Bailey cap (smaller than a Ford one )Hope that helps
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rabmc
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Yeah does sound stupid , no but think its just TOOOOO HOT does the ford water caps fit the spec r alloy header tank ? mines is kind of dark blue in colour
I have a Spec R with sight glass have a yellow standard Ford cap for a Cossie on it and If run for about 5 mins or less I CANT undo it with my hands and need to use a pair of side grips(like molegrips) and YES the tank itself does get very hot
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mmmmm wonder if they do the cap seperate mmmm will phone tomorrow
thanks for the help although will be suprised if this cures the pressure etc , but some of yous guys have seen this before so will take your advice

thanks alot for the replys
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Yeah does sound stupid , no but think its just TOOOOO HOT does the ford water caps fit the spec r alloy header tank ? mines is kind of dark blue in colour
I have a Spec R with sight glass have a yellow standard Ford cap for a Cossie on it and If run for about 5 mins or less I CANT undo it with my hands and need to use a pair of side grips(like molegrips) and YES the tank itself does get very hot
Good so ford ones dooo fit mm lol how hot we talking
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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mm lol how hot we talking

well let's just say when I have my bonnet open have had so many people that while having a nose place their hand/arm on it and they ALWAYS seem to jump about with the pain so hot hot hotvery hot

ps I think Bailey's use a darky blue coloured cap(sort of domed shaped) IIRC
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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My cap squeaks when going on and off? Does that mean its replacement time?

Also,mine is black,not the usuall ERST yellow..?
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Alvyn
ps I think Bailey's use a darky blue coloured cap(sort of domed shaped) IIRC
Edited (thanks to Spenner):

Yes Alvyn, the Bailey header tanks come with a higher pressure cap (i.e higher pressue than the standard Ford yellow cap)......

The Bailey tanks use the Audi/VW dark blue pressure cap, important to note that these caps have a different diamater & thread size to the Ford items, so you cant just fit these dark blue VW caps to a Ford plastic header tank or to "some" Spec-R header tanks.
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i can't touch my nice shiny stainless steel kettle either roflol can any one help
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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the cooling system is pressurised to prevent it from boiling, water boils at a much higher temperature when pressurised
Hope this helps
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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i can't touch my nice shiny stainless steel kettle either roflol can any one help
The Pain
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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can't under stand it stu it's fine when it's full of cold water do u think it may need live mapping
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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sounds just like mine used to be

this was the cause

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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling

The Bailey tanks use the Audi/VW dark blue pressure cap, important to note that these have a different thread to the Ford caps, so you cannot just fit these dark blue VW caps to a Ford or Spec-R header tank
Why not mate?

Mine is a dark blue cap and fitted to a Spec-R header tank.Should i change it to a standard header tank cap?Car run's hot
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Stoo
Originally Posted by Doug Stirling

The Bailey tanks use the Audi/VW dark blue pressure cap, important to note that these have a different thread to the Ford caps, so you cannot just fit these dark blue VW caps to a Ford or Spec-R header tank
Why not mate?
Mine is a dark blue cap and fitted to a Spec-R header tank.Should i change it to a standard header tank cap?Car run's hot
Edited: Please see Spenner's reply below.......
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Alloy header tanks always get red Hot
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Will change cap lads and tke it from there was told by spec r today they had alot of problems from these caps on there stuff and they dont use them anymore so he did tell me a part number and i can get one from VW/AUDI garage
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
can't under stand it Stu it's fine when it's full of cold water do u think it may need live mapping
Im still hurting now
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
i can't touch my nice shiny stainless steel kettle either roflol can any one help
ROLFLMFAO

do u think im paranoid then troops
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rabs got cossie paranoia. Welcome aboard
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Pete at spec-r made some tanks with blue vw cap but generally they have standard ford yellow caps they are not interchangable they have different necks pete now generally uses radiator caps these are high pressure i think you can send your tank back and for a charge pete will change the neck. The standard ford cap is i think 1 bar and rad type neck is 1.5 bar . Out of interest the standard cap is generally fine if in good condition
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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spenner this is what pete said to day he said if i send him my cap (i think he said only cap) he could mod it too like radiator style and nothings upsetting this thing told me to pop into VW/AUDI garage as well
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Cheers

But....I never got a cap with my Spec-R tank I just used the cap from my plastic header tank when i changed them over,it just happened to be dark blue?

Im confused as hell right now.Never thought id be concerned about a header tank cap,cheers Rab

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