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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Hello peeps

Iv just bought my 1st cossy and im pretty excited about owning the real machine at last. However in my haste to buy it i could have overlooked a few things that need changing now.

1 of these seems to be the Tappets. Does any 1 have a clue about the prices of Tappets for an '88 2WD Saph cossy. Im just trying to get a good idea of how much the job should cost ass i dont want my pants ripped off?

Any quotes from people who do this sort of work or from people who have had this sort of work done before would be much appreciated. Can you please also state where you got the tappets from and who did the work?

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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10.64Ł per tappet from burton. not orginal but basicly the same.

changin tappets are easy job. takes about hour to do cylinderhead on place.

but it is always good thing to check the clearances when installing new tappets, so you know that the tappets hole isnt weared too much.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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Try this mate

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WD1V
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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i wouldn't buy new, i would clean the ones that you have. that get noisy when they get clogged up inside with old oil and new oil cannot get in to close up the gap between valve head and cam.

take them all out and soak in degreaser. if you can put them somewhere warm (80 degrees is good), it's much better as the oil will get thinner and come out easier. what you're aiming for, is for the plunger in the centre to be easily moveable with your fingers. you'll find that on some that you remove, you won't be able to push it in as the little hole is blocked.

put the tappet in a vice or clamp, with a piece of ally tube on the plunger and slowly start to compress it. the old thick oil will be gradually forced out of the hole. do that a few times, and put back into soak. when in soak, push the plunger in and out to allow the degreaser to be sucked into the tappet (air bubbles will come out). do this as much as necessary until all tappets have free plungers that go in and out easily against the spring.

when you put them back in, they'll be lovely and quiet. if it is tappet noise that you have, and not little end bearings
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Cheers for the info gents, but a question remains in my head.......... would it be a good idea or a bad idea to use non-Ford tappets? Or would it not make a huge difference either way?

I ask as the original Ford tappets are nearly Ł320, compared to the burton 1's which come in at Ł170. Does the half price tag mean they're not gona last as long or cant handle power upgrades or something???

Andy T - Them 1's on ebay mate....... are they alright for the Sapphire cosworth engine as they're listed for an Escort Cossy? Or are they all the same?

Cheers.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Big turbo Escort Cosworth tappets are the same as Sapphire 4x4. Small turbo Escort tappets are unique.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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also you may find some made by "ina" and as i have been made aware they made the original cossy ones. (i might be rong )
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 06:23 AM
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the original cossie ones are made by INA
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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er......... if INAmade the iriginal Ford 1's then should they not be available from Ford?

Another Q.... some 1 is selling Tappets for a "Cosworth with the YB engine from 1986 onwards, 1998cc"! I take it as all the Cosworth engines were the YB design... or atleast the earlier 1's were?
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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i beleive volkswagon mk 2 golf gti lifters are the same and a lot cheaper
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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i beleive volkswagon mk 2 golf gti lifters are the same and a lot cheaper
not the same.

I bought INA ones for around Ł150 and they were scrap within 2 months. went and bought gen ford ones and they were in there until i sold the car.

not saying the INA are shit just what i experianced when using them
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wongthecorrupter
i beleive volkswagon mk 2 golf gti lifters are the same and a lot cheaper
as the swerv sayed, they are not the same. on a standard size engine they can be used, but they are not as good as original ones. volkswagen lifters are longer than cossies.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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pm MAX on here as hes got a proper brand new set of tappets for sale for 130 quid

brand new never used as hes engine seized before he recived em

seriously om him
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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As mentioned in earlier topics on the board there are some shit versions about i find the BGA followers differ to the original cosworth type, i sell the type that are from Germany and sold to Ford!
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