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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Default Sapphire RS Cossies or Escort RS Cossies.....

Bit bored realy so just wanted to know which of them you prefer and why?
Me personally think that the Escort is one of the most gorgeous looking cars ever but the 2wd saffy is one of the ultimate driving cars of all time(tail happy)

So whats your opinions people..
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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neither, 3drs are where its at. Escorts are more competant but rwd and the headturning looks of the original and best (IMO) incarnation of the Cosworth.
Saffs never floated my boat even though I briefly had a '92 4x4.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Sierra, ultimate driving cars of all time?!?!? think you need to drive some more cars mate
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Brannen
the 2wd saffy is one of the ultimate driving cars of all time
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I will have to NOT agree with you on that one

I would say there is quite a few other "Drivers" cars out there
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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No I meant they are so much fun , thats what I was getting at Porkie
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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get on MSN m8

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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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3dr's
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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i was waiting for the ' 3 door is best ' to pop up.


you know it's the escort.






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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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For people who dont go cruising around in Ferraris etc....yous know what I meant
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Yeah I suppose I should have included the 3dr, some people seem to have been offended
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
i was waiting for the ' 3 door is best ' to pop up.


you know it's the escort.






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Had small and big turbo EsCos's but prefer 3dr for grin factor...but none of them hold a candle to a Skyline (I am heavily biased on this!)
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cam
Had small and big turbo EsCos's but prefer 3dr for grin factor...but none of them hold a candle to a Skyline (I am heavily biased on this!)

Cam it's no use to compare cars from different eras, different kinds of motorsport and allthat. Skyline is very much contemporary car. Cossies are in fact 80's cars with Escos as kind of pinnacle of 80's technology that came too late. Still Ecos is most impressive as it's still very very quick car around corners. In couple of weeks I drive to a rally in which only carallowe are Scoobies.. and my Escos Will kick their asses
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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but none of them hold a candle to a Skyline (I am heavily biased on this!)
Good then.






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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Yeah you cant compare Cossies to Skylines, two different eras , have to agree with Azrael on that
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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You could buy an R32 GTR new long before you could buy an EsCos so the comparison stands.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Yeah but thats not what I asked.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cam
You could buy an R32 GTR new long before you could buy an EsCos so the comparison stands.

It's all the matter of right criteria. Would R32 GTR stand 50kms long special stage on rough tarmac? Would Cossie be any good on the circut as standard?

And remember that Skyline is proper road car and Escos only a homologation special, never developed to be a good road car.
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so fook off with the skylines Cam.

You know they are better.




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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Yep Azrael is right once again
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Originally Posted by Cam
You could buy an R32 GTR new long before you could buy an EsCos so the comparison stands.

It's all the matter of right criteria. Would R32 GTR stand 50kms long special stage on rough tarmac? Would Cossie be any good on the circut as standard?

And remember that Skyline is proper road car and Escos only a homologation special, never developed to be a good road car.
GTR is a homologation special as well. The factory were not even sure if they would sell many but got 4500 preorders after announcing it.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cam
GTR is a homologation special as well. The factory were not even sure if they would sell many but got 4500 preorders after announcing it.


Ehmm.. for what sport was needed the car with RB26DETT,HICAS and ATESSA? JTCC Skyline's did run any of that, right?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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PMSL someone always got to bring a skyline in to it dont they, like they got a complex




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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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The problem is there aren't any LHD Skyline's so for me they are out of question


But coming back to the original question - Escort Cossie is unique car I really like. Top condition Escos is much higher on my wishlist then Ferraries and like.


EDIT: GT-R would be very high on my wishlist of LHD GT-R's were possible for sensible money. Still I do love rallying most so the ones on mywishlist are GrpA rallying homologation specials:

-Escos
-Mazda 323 GT-R
-Lancia Delta HF Integrale
-original Scoobie
-Evo (pre VII)
-Toyota Celica GT-Four



I already have got poor shape Cossie, now it's time to make it good condition and get the others
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Originally Posted by Cam
GTR is a homologation special as well. The factory were not even sure if they would sell many but got 4500 preorders after announcing it.


Ehmm.. for what sport was needed the car with RB26DETT,HICAS and ATESSA? JTCC Skyline's did run any of that, right?
Till it was outlawed due to their dominance yes
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Thank god some one is deciding to answer the original question
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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I loved my EsCos but like many other EsCos owners I wore my rose-coloured specs. They look the dogs bollox but are just a rebodied Saff. In 25 years time 3drs,esp RS500s, will be the prized Cosworths as they have a successful competition pedrigree and were the 1st of the breed. Esos's promised much but did next to nothing and for me a well sorted 3dr is the ultimate Cosworth rush.
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I've owned an RS500 and at the moment own a big turbo Escort and a 4X4 Sapphire and the Escort is best all round.
But to be honest every single RS is special, I would just pick the Escort as my weapon of choice.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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Yeah I can see where ya coming from lads, but would you agree that if you put a poll up of 16 - 23 yr olds the 3dr would be least apreciated, cause those age groups grew up with saffs and escorts, more of the older lads prefer the 3drs I think
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Brannen a sapp is better vaule for money than an escort thats why i bought one IMO

Got a very tidy and rare sapp for rough escort money..
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Originally Posted by Cam
In 25 years time 3drs,esp RS500s, will be the prized Cosworths as they have a successful competition pedrigree

If I remember right original Cosworth had one WRC win. I wouldn't call that sucessfull competition pedigree
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Originally Posted by Azrael
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In 25 years time 3drs,esp RS500s, will be the prized Cosworths as they have a successful competition pedrigree

If I remember right original Cosworth had one WRC win. I wouldn't call that sucessfull competition pedigree
what about all the touring car wins
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Yeah doo I know what you mean , that is one tidy saff you have there mate,
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Originally Posted by DOO
what about all the touring car wins

I think it's RS500 mostly, right? And it's on national levels as there weren't any worlwide championship untill recently. On the same basis Fiat 126p and 125p are racing legends because they were only cars racing in Polish circut racing for something like 20 years...
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RS500 won the world touring car championship in -87 if my mind serves me right.
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Originally Posted by Mr Brannen
Yeah I can see where ya coming from lads, but would you agree that if you put a poll up of 16 - 23 yr olds the 3dr would be least apreciated, cause those age groups grew up with saffs and escorts, more of the older lads prefer the 3drs I think
well im in the middle of that bracket and appreciate the 3dr (RS500) as the best cosworth made!

i think your opinion is based on the fact you never see them about on the roads. before i started going to the local RS meets id never seen a 3dr close up and didnt see what the fuss is about. didnt even like the look of them tbh!

but the lads in the group soon showed me the error of my ways! after going out in a couple of lairy 3drs and comparing them to pussy 4x4 its clear which is best!
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Originally Posted by mattbibs
after going out in a couple of lairy 3drs and comparing them to pussy 4x4 its clear which is best!
The world would be such a dull place without pussy.
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Originally Posted by Andreas
The world would be such a dull place without pussy.


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the man does put his arguement well!
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escort for me, think they turn more heads than my old saph did.
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