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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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read an artical in th rs collectors edition, and a s1 had antilag on it

didnt really say much about it, so was wondering

if any of you lot would now whats involved in doin it
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Old May 1, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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quite a lot!!!!!!!! to get it you will probably need a management set up which enables you to have it programmedon? but efore that your engine will need quite a bit of tweeking aswell, new pistons are a deffinate i think otherwise the originals would just melt!!!!!!!!!!!!
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As above, it is very involved. My S2 has it, but to be honest, its not worth the cost of adding it for that reason alone. My Omex 700 Series Management comes with it, so I use it for that reason. However, it still needs modifications done in addition to that.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Mine has it too, but I also have a dirty big turbo
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quite alot involved then not surprising realy

cheers anyway

maybe a winter mission later in the year
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Old May 1, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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sounds cool though, always a crowd puller!!!!!!!!!
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would you now what it would cost ?

or tony turbo- how much did your set up cost and were ?

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Old May 1, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Off the top of my head, I would say around the £10k sort of mark.

That includes engine, Omex 710 ( ) management, fitting, mapping, Maram shaft for the turbo (stronger left handed shaft which doesn't melt under the extreme temps generated by ALS) and probably a few other bits.

APT sorted me out
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Old May 1, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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10k

better get saving
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Old May 1, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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that is what it cost him altogether...

labour charges etc...
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£10k is way out
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maybe he was trying to show off
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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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HOW MUCH YOU RECON THEN

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A BIT HIGH TOO

BUT IM QUITE NEW TO THE SEEN AS YOU CAN SEE

MYSELF I WAS THINKING 2-3K
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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ballin
£10k is way out
Really? What did you pay?
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Anti-Lag is something that needs alot more consideration other than just the function itself. You need to consider Transmission strength, aswell as the strength of the engine, which is why the overall cost is high.

Omex 600 Series Management supports ALS and costs around £2k fitted and mapped, but that cost doesn't include the ALS map and other Auxillary maps. You also need modifications to the car to allow it to actually produce Boost, which means Throttle Body mods etc.

There are devices on Ebay to simulate the sound, if its just the sound you are after, best to go that way.....
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Christian and Beccy,
what bits are they that are on e bay if ya dont mind me askin????
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Christian and Beccy,
what bits are they that are on e bay if ya dont mind me askin????
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

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nice!!!!
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Na ill keep savin for the real thing!!!
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thats abit KEV ISH

sent a mail to apt just to see what they say

keep on saving thats what ive said

unless i find a briefcase full of doller
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Originally Posted by seriesone0
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Anti-Lag is something that needs alot more consideration other than just the function itself. You need to consider Transmission strength, aswell as the strength of the engine, which is why the overall cost is high.

Omex 600 Series Management supports ALS and costs around £2k fitted and mapped, but that cost doesn't include the ALS map and other Auxillary maps. You also need modifications to the car to allow it to actually produce Boost, which means Throttle Body mods etc.

There are devices on Ebay to simulate the sound, if its just the sound you are after, best to go that way.....
Thats pretty much what APT will say, because it will probably be me that answers it!!
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Old May 2, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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if thats whats its going to cost didnt relise you work/own the place
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
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£10k is way out
Really? What did you pay?
dont have it, dont see the point on a fwd s2
but i imagine that was a case of trying to put others off and big yourself up in the meantime?
£2k on management and mapping, fair enough....that leaves £8k for engine mods, aux maps etc? er, okay.
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Old May 5, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ballin
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£10k is way out
Really? What did you pay?
dont have it, dont see the point on a fwd s2
but i imagine that was a case of trying to put others off and big yourself up in the meantime?
£2k on management and mapping, fair enough....that leaves £8k for engine mods, aux maps etc? er, okay.
LOL - Who said MY management was £2k?

Omex 700 ECU was £1000 when I bought it, plus £70 for a partial loom.Then fitting and mapping on top. Omex set the prices for mapping. They say 3 days maximum to map @ £400 per day. Then add the fitting cost, then mapping ALS maps.

Now lets think pistons, around £500 for forged pistons, depending what ones you buy. And conrods? Another £750 for steel rods. Then add the full whack of the rest of the rebuild.

Oh, lets not forget a Maram 247 shaft for the turbo. What do they cost these days... Around £1200 I think. Plus the rest of the T34

Also gearbox has to be taken into consideration. Along with ceramic coating of certain parts, but I won't bore you with all the details of that.

As for being pointless, just shows what you know about ALS. I assume you think it is pointless because the wheels will just spin up? Nope


Anyway, the question asked was "Tony Turbo - What did you pay for it?" NOT - "How cheap can I have ALS on my RST. I', not worried about melting various bits, I just want it to go pop?"
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www.radley.plus.com/antilag.MOV

www.radley.plus.com/antilag2.MOV

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Old May 6, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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was it me, but i couldnt see anythink , on those links
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Old May 6, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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£10k is way out

PMSL - i dont think so..... If u had to do everything on such an engine then u'll soon see....
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