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Hi guys, I'm really struggling to get my front track arms back on the car after fitting new boots to them. I've done it just how the book says but I'm getting nowhere. I've got everything loose, except the shock top at the moment, and done lots of pushing and pulling but I just can't get it near the mount. Anyone got any tips, I remember this being an issue before but I must have got there somehow, but I'm stuffed it I can remember how. Tried jacking from under the track arm, also on the rollbar but I'm literally getting nowhere. Any thoughts greatfully appreciated.
When I've done mine in the past I have put the ball joint in the hub then the roll bar back on and then the wheel and slowly lower the car/wheel down on some wood. Then the track arm should line up in the subframe.
You could also try jacking the hub up.
Some people use ratchet straps to pull the arm in.
When I've done mine in the past I have put the ball joint in the hub then the roll bar back on and then the wheel and slowly lower the car/wheel down on some wood. Then the track arm should line up in the subframe.
You could also try jacking the hub up.
Some people use ratchet straps to pull the arm in.
Tried jacking the hub up and that didn't work for me unfortunately. I've got my rollbar undone at the moment, I wonder if bolting that up might help any, it's very frustrating!
Ball joint in first, then lever against the ARB with a big bar then put the inner TCA bolt in , might need to put a punch in before the bolt to line up the bolt hole in the bush and cross member.
Get a helper to push against the bar as there's a lot of tension on those roll bars!
Ball joint in first, then lever against the ARB with a big bar then put the inner TCA bolt in , might need to put a punch in before the bolt to line up the bolt hole in the bush and cross member.
Get a helper to push against the bar as there's a lot of tension on those roll bars!
It's just me I'm afraid. I wonder if the strap might be the way forward, one side is in but the other will not go however hard I try.
When I've done mine in the past I have put the ball joint in the hub then the roll bar back on and then the wheel and slowly lower the car/wheel down on some wood. Then the track arm should line up in the subframe.
You could also try jacking the hub up.
Some people use ratchet straps to pull the arm in.
That's exactly what I've done as well, made it nice & easy.....
Fingers crossed. The roll bar has some bloody tension on it.
I was talking to someone else about that this afternoon. The rollbars are so thick on the Cossie, I've got an MX5 and if you look at the rollbars on that they're tiny compared to the Cossie, I bet if you were feeling strong you could literally bend the rear one in your hands.
I'm really struggling with this. I'm even wondering now if I've got the roll bar on the wrong way round or something. I know I didn't go through this sort of hell with it last time.
It doesn't seem to want to go any further than this, so it's a bloody mile away. Any theories anyone. I've now unhooked it from the hub and still no joy.
Jack the arm that is already fitted up so it is horizontal. That way you need to compress the arb less. I use a ratchet strap as well and never had much problems.
Jack the arm that is already fitted up so it is horizontal. That way you need to compress the arb less. I use a ratchet strap as well and never had much problems.
That's pretty much what I did in the end mate. Never had to do such a thing on any other car though. What an arse.
I did mine cause I fitted poly bushes to the arm. Fit and forget I thought. Naa one of the poly bushes were worn causing the arm to move about.
I don't like the polybushes on the arms, I've put them on the anti-rollbar clamps but not in the arms, I did buy a set but they just looked too thick to me on the out side edges, so I went back to standard ones. I think some of these polybushes probably shouldn't be fitted to the car, they just make them so there is a complete set.
Here's another question guys, should all this stuff at the front be kept loose until the car is on the ground, then tightened. I've always wondered how you do that though. Or perhaps leave it all loose, jack up the arms and then tighten, so you can actually get access to everything? Or does it matter?
Yes they should be tightened with the wheels on the ground. After they are tightened any movement of the suspension is causing deflection of the bushes, as the metal tube of the bush is clamped by the bolt and therefore not moving. So when tightening the bolts with the wheels on the ground you make sure they is hardly any deflection in the bushes when the suspension is in it’s ‘normal’ position.
For poly bushes it doesn’t matter as the bush and the metal tube are not one piece.
Yes they should be tightened with the wheels on the ground. After they are tightened any movement of the suspension is causing deflection of the bushes, as the metal tube of the bush is clamped by the bolt and therefore not moving. So when tightening the bolts with the wheels on the ground you make sure they is hardly any deflection in the bushes when the suspension is in it’s ‘normal’ position.
For poly bushes it doesn’t matter as the bush and the metal tube are not one piece.
I'm just thinking how I can get at them to tighten them when the car is on the ground. I wonder if I can drop the car onto my ramps on the front, do you think that would work?
Which bits need to be loose?
Inner track arm bolt?
Anti Rollbar end nuts?
Anti Rollbar clamp bolts?
Only the inner and outer track control arm bushes. Just put a jack underneath the arm and the jack up the arm to the normal position and then tighten them.
Only the inner and outer track control arm bushes. Just put a jack underneath the arm and the jack up the arm to the normal position and then tighten them.
Cool, just a bit hard knowing what the normal position is, I guess so long as they're under tension it should work do you think?