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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 12:26 PM
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Just putting this out there asking if anyone has any Dyno plots of a yb with a efr 9180 on it, with either the 1.05ar or the 1.45ar turbine housings

Got a while yet til mine will be on the Dyno just wanting to see what sort of curve there giving
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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I have one on my Facebook page and I limited the Hp as we where above where we needed it to be.

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I have one on my Facebook page and I limited the Hp as we where above where we needed it to be.

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Great stuff il go find it, is it on the 1.05ar mate ?
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2.3 bar pump fuel I assume 1.05 ar


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2.3 bar pump fuel I assume 1.05 ar


Lower line 2.3bar pump fuel upper line 109oct race fuel 2.5bar. Limited the power on this and there is at least another 50hp in it on each fuel.

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That'll do for me lol mark have you tested the internally gated 9180 yet?
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That'll do for me lol mark have you tested the internally gated 9180 yet?

No but it will be soon.

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Lower line 2.3bar pump fuel upper line 109oct race fuel 2.5bar. Limited the power on this and there is at least another 50hp in it on each fuel.

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Awesome stuff, is that full boost at 5250 rpm ?
have you dynoed any on the 1.45ar yet ?

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Only that one on a 1.45 on a Evo.

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Jesus that's more than my gtr
Is that race fuel aswell ?
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Only that one on a 1.45 on a Evo.

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That Evo must be a beast!!!
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Are they going to do a step down from the 9180 turbo mark that your be interested in using
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Are they going to do a step down from the 9180 turbo mark that your be interested in using
The 8474 is in production so that’s the one we willl use on yours.

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Jesus that's more than my gtr
Is that race fuel aswell ?
109ron race fuel in that one.

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I am glad the 8474 would not fit my engine bay as it would be tempting on the stroker, could you imagine my little 205 on 225 tyres, Under 1000kg and around 700 bhp with all that torque....it would be like a rally cross car from the 80s/90s
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I am glad the 8474 would not fit my engine bay as it would be tempting on the stroker, could you imagine my little 205 on 225 tyres, Under 1000kg and around 700 bhp with all that torque....it would be like a rally cross car from the 80s/90s
But the smile it would bring lol

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


The 8474 is in production so that’s the one we willl use on yours.

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Theres a bloke on fb with a blue escort Cosworth running one of those, 718hp apparently

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Awesome stuff, is that full boost at 5250 rpm ?
have you dynoed any on the 1.45ar yet ?
I too would like to see where full boost is on a 700hp+ 9180 setup on a rr graph

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Only that one on a 1.45 on a Evo.

Mark
I just found this one on your page it says 9180 on a Evo, that's a big curve on this one massive power band to drive in


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Originally Posted by turbotrev


I too would like to see where full boost is on a 700hp+ 9180 setup on a rr graph

Cheers Paul
​​​​​​That's one thing I'm trying to look at, the trade offs and gains from a 1.05 and a 1.45

I did have a gt4094r on a 1.05ar on an rb26 engine and that made over 700 hp and would easily rev over 8k and just kept making power and that was a 2.7 !

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Oooh the lag lol. These things really need a sequential setup.
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Originally Posted by Rick
Oooh the lag lol. These things really need a sequential setup.

Not for me, I specifically want a stick shift h for the authentic Cossie experience

It's nostalgia for me more than anything else
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Originally Posted by Rick
Oooh the lag lol. These things really need a sequential setup.
Spot on dude.
That will be my goal eventually

Cheers Paul

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Originally Posted by Rick
Oooh the lag lol. These things really need a sequential setup.
out of interest what are the sequential options for a rwd that can handle huge torque
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Originally Posted by ajamesc

out of interest what are the sequential options for a rwd that can handle huge torque
Def quaife 69g (thats what' i’ll be going for) also seen the elite il300 evo 2 fitted into a Sierra with big power.

Im guessing tractive and sadev also do models that could be modded to fit

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Def quaife 69g (thats what' i’ll be going for) also seen the elite il300 evo 2 fitted into a Sierra with big power.

Im guessing tractive and sadev also do models that could be modded to fit

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Fair play I bet that quaife isn’t cheap. I’ve a friend with an elite he doesn’t have huge torque it’s been back for repair twice
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Originally Posted by turbotrev


Theres a bloke on fb with a blue escort Cosworth running one of those, 718hp apparently

Cheers Paul
655hp at Motorworx when I mapped it. That’s the difference in rr

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Originally Posted by ajamesc

Fair play I bet that quaife isn’t cheap. I’ve a friend with an elite he doesn’t have huge torque it’s been back for repair twice
The quaife is about 8/9k I think? Roughly

One of the elite’s I saw fitted was on a 650hp efr equipped 3dr.
I don’t know how he got on with it tbh.
They are ‘cheap’ for a seq box

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


655hp at Motorworx when I mapped it. That’s the difference in rr

Mark
This car Mark?

Cheers Paul


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Bara said to me that the quaife boxes are sold with small profit margins to keep the price competitive but when you need parts they charge like an angry rhino.
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I wouldn't ever want a sequential in a road car only a track car, the box in my rs6 isn't dct just torque convertor and 8 speed auto trans but it is bloody awesome, 0-100 mph with no launch consistently 7.5 seconds in full auto 2 ton car, and can take big torque, that's the sort of thing I'd want if I ever wanted to change so it's good for road and race
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Originally Posted by turbotrev


This car Mark?

Cheers Paul


Yes I only quote numbers of what I saw on the last dyno run which is always the number it makes on the road.
If it goes on to make more elsewhere I still quote what I saw.

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
I wouldn't ever want a sequential in a road car only a track car, the box in my rs6 isn't dct just torque convertor and 8 speed auto trans but it is bloody awesome, 0-100 mph with no launch consistently 7.5 seconds in full auto 2 ton car, and can take big torque, that's the sort of thing I'd want if I ever wanted to change so it's good for road and race
A lot of people say that and I do get why (noise, clunky, expense, etc)
But I also don’t understand why lots of people fit huge monster turbos with loads of top end power yet break boxes on a regular, struggle to change gear or are forced to treat their car gently, it’s pointless.

all the time your changing gear your not accelerating

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Yes I only quote numbers of what I saw on the last dyno run which is always the number it makes on the road.
If it goes on to make more elsewhere I still quote what I saw.

Mark
so without going too much of the main subject we’re back to the old different dyno debate again.
And this car is one you mapped and made 655hp at motorworx?

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so without going too much of the main subject we’re back to the old different dyno debate again.
And this car is one you mapped and made 655hp at motorworx?

Cheers Paul
Different rr manufacturer so can vary in output

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Originally Posted by turbotrev


A lot of people say that and I do get why (noise, clunky, expense, etc)
But I also don’t understand why lots of people fit huge monster turbos with loads of top end power yet break boxes on a regular, struggle to change gear or are forced to treat their car gently, it’s pointless.

all the time your changing gear your not accelerating

Cheers Paul
I guess everyone is different I personally could no way spend 9 grand on a gearbox. You could buy a tko new and a gsxr1000 lol. I don’t think the elite will put up with the torque the new big turbos produce after seeing a mates break twice with out. Id be happy to compromise and keep the revs up and down shift. I don’t see it as an issue in a road car as your pretty unlikely to meet anything as quick on 4 wheels normally
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Originally Posted by turbotrev


A lot of people say that and I do get why (noise, clunky, expense, etc)
But I also don’t understand why lots of people fit huge monster turbos with loads of top end power yet break boxes on a regular, struggle to change gear or are forced to treat their car gently, it’s pointless.

all the time your changing gear your not accelerating

Cheers Paul

It does make a huge difference my gtr is seamless shifts 0-100 mph in 4.9 seconds, but for me the Cossie is raw, no driver aid except abs and possibly launch control, it's about man and machine for me with a h pattern box just how it was 20 years ago when I bought my first one



That's me about 20 years old with my first ever Cossie a 350 hp saph 2wd on greens with a t34 0.63 I loved that car blew me away I'd never been in anything like it, wooped all the Scooby's I came across at the time which were all the rage hence my username
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Originally Posted by ajamesc

I guess everyone is different I personally could no way spend 9 grand on a gearbox. You could buy a tko new and a gsxr1000 lol. I don’t think the elite will put up with the torque the new big turbos produce after seeing a mates break twice with out. Id be happy to compromise and keep the revs up and down shift. I don’t see it as an issue in a road car as your pretty unlikely to meet anything as quick on 4 wheels normally
And it would be utter dogshit on the road
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Originally Posted by ajamesc

I guess everyone is different I personally could no way spend 9 grand on a gearbox. You could buy a tko new and a gsxr1000 lol. I don’t think the elite will put up with the torque the new big turbos produce after seeing a mates break twice with out. Id be happy to compromise and keep the revs up and down shift. I don’t see it as an issue in a road car as your pretty unlikely to meet anything as quick on 4 wheels normally
Very true,
With regards to my own car as a fun toy to be used at weekends, santapod, etc with lots lots of power and a huge turbo I think it will hold it back if not going sequential (eventually)
At the same time a gearbox is really expensive people spend crazy money on a big power engine only for the gearbox to hinder it, makes no sense to me, may as well stay 500hp if sticking with a manual box, keeping it a better ‘road car’

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