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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 06:19 PM
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What sort of power would you expect from fitting this turbo on my YB
It’s externally gated also

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Max 630 bhp and probably 530-550 ftlb if you have inlet manifold twin scroll, cams, pistons, big enough exhaust and intercooler to suit. (Don’t know if head work is needed) Mark Shead can confirm and make it happen.


the key is that they spool up under 3900 rpm to over 7000 so you get a big spread.




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Sounds good I think this is just what I need
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Just purchased
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mall secondhand but not used
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Was that off Facebook I see that on there price wasn’t bad iver
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7670 is a very laggy turbo I would of gone for a 70 64
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7670 is about 500 rpm behind 7064 according to Mark, is that very laggy?
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Old Nov 5, 2018 | 06:12 AM
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Jay has me worried that I have given duff info on the turbo as he knows what he is on about
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Originally Posted by Jay,
7670 is a very laggy turbo I would of gone for a 70 64
i think you have drunk to much😂laggy full boost at 3800rpm and 600hp laggy.

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


i think you have drunk to much😂laggy full boost at 3800rpm and 600hp laggy.

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Phew...I was worried there that I had made him buy the wrong turbo.
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


i think you have drunk to much😂laggy full boost at 3800rpm and 600hp laggy.

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Well the conversation we had when 7670 came up for-sale and I was going to buy you said not a great turbo on a yb as the response and lag was terrible and that was the reason 800bhp went from that turbo to a 7064 ?
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I thought 800 bhp tried a 71...something thinking it was a newer and better version that did not turn out that well? 7064 has to be the best option if you do not need over 520 bhp though (on a YB)
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What’s the max power you’d get out a 2.0 yb with a 7064 with cams, bigger plenum, standard head ports and a built bottom end?
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This is AJCs from his thread

I think the green escos belonging to 800bhp on here is running 529bhp which is right at the max of a 7064, his engine has head work.



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Originally Posted by Jay,
Well the conversation we had when 7670 came up for-sale and I was going to buy you said not a great turbo on a yb as the response and lag was terrible and that was the reason 800bhp went from that turbo to a 7064 ?
what I would have said is the 7670 is 400rpm laggier and the 7064 is better suited to your engine spec.
The 7670 is the best 600hp turbo you can buy.

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Originally Posted by Adam-M
What’s the max power you’d get out a 2.0 yb with a 7064 with cams, bigger plenum, standard head ports and a built bottom end?
depends on total spec. The one we have on 800bhp engine with my new spec head work and cams is running 150k turbo speed with I am sure will be the first one I have seen will be in the 530hp range.

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Impressive, will hopefully be in touch February/March for some parts off you mark such as long rods, pistons and longstuds.
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


what I would have said is the 7670 is 400rpm laggier and the 7064 is better suited to your engine spec.
The 7670 is the best 600hp turbo you can buy.

Mark
Assuming same sort of spec engine,where does the 8374 fit in?Power,spool,torque,rpm?
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Originally Posted by Jec1969

Assuming same sort of spec engine,where does the 8374 fit in?Power,spool,torque,rpm?
‘I don’t know. I have only really seen 7670 then people seem to jump to 9180 where over 700 bhp has been proven.
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Originally Posted by Jec1969

Assuming same sort of spec engine,where does the 8374 fit in?Power,spool,torque,rpm?
pits about 400rpm behind the 7670 but under delivers in it power output 650 to 680hp still a very good turbo but I go to the 9180 for the full beans. There is a 8474 coming soon that should make quite a difference in its power.

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Where does the 8374 fit in with similar spec engines?
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Thanks to you both
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Originally Posted by Jec1969
Where does the 8374 fit in with similar spec engines?
what do you mean. What info do you want on them.

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Sorry,posted twice.When you say the full beans,what does that mean?
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Originally Posted by Jec1969
Sorry,posted twice.When you say the full beans,what does that mean?

full throttle, flat out....full beans
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Originally Posted by Jay,
7670 is a very laggy turbo I would of gone for a 70 64
Iv’e heard mixed reviews on these, some say full boost around 3900/4000 revs on the smaller .92 housing which sounds good.
Rated to around 600hp.

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Originally Posted by Jec1969
Sorry,posted twice.When you say the full beans,what does that mean?
when you do a roll on test in 4th or 5th gear on a correct spec engine to suit the turbo full boost is around 3800rpm.

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


when you do a roll on test in 4th or 5th gear on a correct spec engine to suit the turbo full boost is around 3800rpm.

Mark
Would that differ much from say pulling away in first then spooling up as you change into second gear Mark?

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Would that differ much from say pulling away in first then spooling up as you change into second gear Mark?

Cheers Paul
Well obviously it won’t spool the same in the lowers gears as you don’t have the load on the engine but the gain you have in spool over the other type turbos do transfer in to the lower gears and this is where most people notice the big difference as the engine is so much crisper in the lower gears as well.

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


Well obviously it won’t spool the same in the lowers gears as you don’t have the load on the engine but the gain you have in spool over the other type turbos do transfer in to the lower gears and this is where most people notice the big difference as the engine is so much crisper in the lower gears as well.

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that’s interesting, would a lighter car mean less load on the engine so lower spool?
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack

that’s interesting, would a lighter car mean less load on the engine so lower spool?
i wonder if the same applies to having short gear ratios?
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack

that’s interesting, would a lighter car mean less load on the engine so lower spool?
Not noticed any slower spool with a lighter they just **** off down the road faster lol the same with lower gearing.

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


when you do a roll on test in 4th or 5th gear on a correct spec engine to suit the turbo full boost is around 3800rpm.

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I am suprised that full boost can be reached so low down the rev band.Is this down to the EFR turbo or a combination of it plus a modern ecu etc?
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
I am suprised that full boost can be reached so low down the rev band.Is this down to the EFR turbo or a combination of it plus a modern ecu etc?
The twin scroll manifold has 50% of the gain then the efr takes up the rest with a exhaust wheel that is much lighter and model airflow design.

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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


The twin scroll manifold has 50% of the gain then the efr takes up the rest with a exhaust wheel that is much lighter and model airflow design.

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is there much differance in spool and full boost revs between the 7064 0.92 and the 1.05 housings
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Originally Posted by turbospud1
is there much differance in spool and full boost revs between the 7064 0.92 and the 1.05 housings
Not tested the 1.05 as I find no need for it. I do have a car coming at some point in the future to have tested one but it’s not my engine spec it’s only in for mapping.

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Is it the externally gated versions that have the 1.05 exh housings?

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Originally Posted by turbotrev
Is it the externally gated versions that have the 1.05 exh housings?

Cheers Paul
yes,externally gated in a 7064 is 1.05,
if the 7064 0.92 internally gated produces in the 500 region and has better driveability then this would be the obvious choice for most yb engines
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Mark what's the benefit of twin ext gates I'm sure you've told me was a while ago now will be looking at getting manifold soon
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