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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 06:00 PM
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Default Copper slip or thread lock on driveshaft bolts ?

I'm getting close to fitting rear axle and don't know what to do for the best


In theory they should have thread lock, but they will be a pain in the arse to remove if further tinkering is needed at another time.


Anyone used copper slip and had no problems ?
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 07:32 PM
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I know your pain, I did use copper and they did come loose, nipped back up after about 100 miles and were fine after that.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 07:55 PM
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What about copper slip and nordlock anti vibration washers?
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 07:56 PM
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What about copper slip and nordlock anti vibration washers?

Could be the ideal compromise !


I need to check bolt lengths as a M10 washer is 2.5 thick...

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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I know your pain, I did use copper and they did come loose, nipped back up after about 100 miles and were fine after that.

That's put me of my original plan
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I used schnor washers on my engine mounts, very similar but quite thin. Stuart Day recommended them for engine mounts after one of my bolts on the block came loose.
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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I used schnor washers on my engine mounts, very similar but quite thin. Stuart Day recommended them for engine mounts after one of my bolts on the block came loose.


They should do the job.


I found these similar ones that are cheaper and have a lower minimum order quantity (at least at this online shop)


https://www.accu.co.uk/en/anti-vibra...19-HSNW-M10-A2
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I don't think they'll work as good as it looks like one singular conical shaped washer rather than a double washer that cam locks. Plus they are stainless steel which they say you shouldn't mix.

You can buy them in small quantities off of eBay as that's where I buy them...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282272928501
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I agree the nord lock looks better but you need some bolt length for them....it's a clever design isn't it.
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Neither.
Just torque up.
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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 11:27 AM
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Was under my cossie yesterday removing my fuel lines and decided to check if my driveshaft bolts where tight and they where all loose, so either the previous owner never tightened them properly when fitting the rear diff or the solid diff mount has caused extra vibration.

Going to either use nordlock washers or thread lock
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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridgey
Neither.
Just torque up.
As above ...never had any issues after 23 years, and I have been though a couple of diffs ...
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Mark they are blue from factory which is a type of coating used like loctite.

I would loctite and torque to spec or use snore washers either will be fine.

Paul
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Mark they are blue from factory which is a type of coating used like loctite.

I would loctite and torque to spec or use snore washers either will be fine.

Paul


Will probably use a low strength Loctite, original drive shafts were too long and I've had to get a pair made
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Originally Posted by Mark V8
Will probably use a low strength Loctite, original drive shafts were too long and I've had to get a pair made

blue loctite will be fine mate.
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