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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 06:26 PM
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Hi all two things am just trying out my photobucket and second is I've just had this done by a Company that mainly builds Subaru rally cars so they don't work on sumps like mine but give it a go anyway my only worry been the oil returning to the pick up quick enough. They said the oil will go down the sides back to the pick up.
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 06:29 PM
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I will be very suprised if you get enough oil back to the
Pump like that
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 06:40 PM
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They said they didn't put holds in the plate as that would defeating the object of want we are trying to achieve. I was thinking of putting some holes in the centre?
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Are u still using the genuine baffle/wind age plate that bolts to the main caps ?
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 07:35 PM
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you will never get enough oil back ot the pick up

if anything that's going to make maters worse rather than better, even the baffle on the bottom hasn't got any holes init to let the oil back in from the top of the sump
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lacey
Are u still using the genuine baffle/wind age plate that bolts to the main caps ?
Yeah was going to fit the wing tray as well.
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 08:00 PM
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heres a raceline one for comparison

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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 08:07 PM
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Firstly if there is no oil down low then there is not going to be a engine
So you need a gap all round by about 6/10 mm
I would also get a recess pressed in the middle and put a hole in the
Centre of that to
Also lift the end that is down on the pan by 3/4mm

The baffle in the bottom of the pan needs a few half round holes
At the bottom To let the oil move to the pick up .
as at the mo your going to do a good job of
Keeping it away
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you will never get enough oil back ot the pick up

if anything that's going to make maters worse rather than better, even the baffle on the bottom hasn't got any holes init to let the oil back in from the top of the sump
There is holes in the baffle plate at the bottom the picture doesn't show them. I've try poring oil in to see what happens but I don't the poring 4 litres of oil in was a good enough test really.
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 08:13 PM
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I see them now
A little small tho
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by frsjon
heres a raceline one for comparison




Is this your sump? This is what I was thinking of to this plate like them holes it that one.
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lacey
I see them now
A little small tho
Haha yeah they are there I am still thinking of getting the later black top sump.
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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it was mate but i sold it as it was for a rwd zetec sadly. the pics done show it but its big winged and would of played havoc with the driveshafts
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What sump you running now mate?
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 09:12 PM
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Has anyone fitted a 2 part Zetec sump to a ZVH/Zetec on a BC5 Gearbox? What mods have to be done for it to fit?

I know ZetecInside reckons a stock sump is fine but a recent trackday seemed to prove the opposite.
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I think you've got to cut some of the webbing out of the sump to get them to fit am not 100% on that mind.
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Originally Posted by little bram
There is holes in the baffle plate at the bottom the picture doesn't show them. I've try poring oil in to see what happens but I don't the poring 4 litres of oil in was a good enough test really.
i'm no expert but the holes look to be a little small, plus the main baffle has no space for the oil to run back into the main part of the sump which would be my main concern

what car is it going on as it looks like there is something attached to the baffle plate
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Originally Posted by little bram
I think you've got to cut some of the webbing out of the sump to get them to fit am not 100% on that mind.
Correct

Worth while doing
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lacey
Correct

Worth while doing
Are you OK to go into more detail about how this can be done and if there are photos showing what needs to be altered? This sounds appealing since it would be cheaper than baffling my existing sump.

I am hoping that by doing a couple of things my oil surge issues and losing alot of oil around hard bends on trackdays will become a thing of the past.
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chas
Has anyone fitted a 2 part Zetec sump to a ZVH/Zetec on a BC5 Gearbox? What mods have to be done for it to fit?

I know ZetecInside reckons a stock sump is fine but a recent trackday seemed to prove the opposite.
Fitted one to a IB5 box which is the same deal.

Cut both the sump wings off, trim away a bit of webbing on the front to allow the starter motor to fit. Then i had to weld some extra plate onto the gearbox sandwich plate (which needed trimming in a few places) as where the starter would be on a zetec was just a big hole to the back of the flywheel.

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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 07:30 PM
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So the webbing you's are talking about is on the front for the start motor? I wasn't sure what you's where going on about.
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I didn't think you could use the two-piece sump with a standard downpipe, though?
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by muz
I didn't think you could use the two-piece sump with a standard downpipe, though?
I found mine needed modifying slightly as it was a bit close to the back edge of the sump.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 05:36 PM
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Don't say that! I was looking forward to a cheap fix!
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Mine was ok, as far as I can recall.
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Originally Posted by Chas
Don't say that! I was looking forward to a cheap fix!
My downpipe has seen a few speed bumps in its time which probably doesn't help .
Although I found once I had made my engine mount and using a manifold adapter plate my downpipe needed to be 1-2cm longer so I used this as an opportunity to add some clearance to the sump.
Incase you can't guess, I'm very anal when it comes to these things.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 06:32 AM
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there are big wing cvh and zetec sumps on offer on other websites.

Have a look and see decent baffles and gates been inserted to get an idea what is perfect for a track or race car.
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Where in these other websites do I need to look?
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