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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 08:30 PM
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came accross a weird old car today guy has this unregistered mk3 fiesta red with a 1.8 zetec efi engine with base trim rs1800 wheels elecy windows and 3000 miles on the clock.....

he said its a prototype car and i looked around it and saw the fuel filter has experimental printed on the outside of it and the part numbers are not cross referenceable chassis number doesnt give you a build date and a few other oddities!

aparrently 6 or so were built and subsequently given away to various places

he was talking about recommsioning it and selling it on, id have though it should be in a museum...
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this on wikipedia:

'In 1992 a number of prototype cars were produced by Ford fitted with direct injection two stroke engines produced by the Orbital Engine Corporation of Australia, with full scale production anticipated by Ford in "two to three years time".[12] The cars were tested extensively in the UK, but ultimately it was decided not to go ahead with production versions.'
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 06:35 PM
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this on wikipedia:

'In 1992 a number of prototype cars were produced by Ford fitted with direct injection two stroke engines produced by the Orbital Engine Corporation of Australia, with full scale production anticipated by Ford in "two to three years time".[12] The cars were tested extensively in the UK, but ultimately it was decided not to go ahead with production versions.'


that was the two stroke engines ones not the RS1800.
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by t230
this on wikipedia:

'In 1992 a number of prototype cars were produced by Ford fitted with direct injection two stroke engines produced by the Orbital Engine Corporation of Australia, with full scale production anticipated by Ford in "two to three years time".[12] The cars were tested extensively in the UK, but ultimately it was decided not to go ahead with production versions.'


There is one of these in Haynes motor museum.


I thought all the prototypes were crushed?
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 06:55 PM
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swear was undr the fiesta section
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 07:06 PM
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they were not crushed they were given away by ford, ive seen the car this week very interesting what with the chassis number that means nothing as far as build date or factory of origin!

this was when the tag plate under the bonnet called the engine a "zeta"
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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The first Zetec-branded engine was the Zeta family, introduced for the 1992 model year powering the fifth generation of the European Ford Escort, the third generation Orion and the Mk.3 Ford Fiesta. The engine was originally available in 1.6 and 1.8 liter versions with a 2.0 liter version appearing in 1993 in the all-new Mondeo. The "Zeta" name was dropped in favour of "Zetec" when Italian car maker Lancia threatened to sue Ford for trademark infringement. The codename "Zeta" was originally used for the design of the cylinder head. A number of different systems were evaluated, and each one had a different codename using the Greek alphabet. The Zeta concept was the winner and the 4-valve-per-cylinder, DOHC design was used for the head of the replacement for the CVH in Europe and the US. The original manufacturing plan involved replacing the Dearborn manufactured CVH with Zeta. This resulted in the need to retain much of the architecture of the US CVH block. However, later in the development process, the plan was changed and the Chihuahua engine plant in Mexico was rebuilt to allow manufacture of the US engines. For Europe the decision was taken to build Zetas in Bridgend (Replacing CVH) and in Cologne. The US (2.0L) and European base engines were almost identical. However, crucially, the US management insisted that the US engines had to be "freewheeling", or a non-interference engine design. The fuel economy penalty with the freewheeling system (around 1–2%) was considered to be too great for European engines. The result was that the engines used different pistons. Another difference was that the US engines featured sinter forged connecting rods versus conventional cast rods in Europe.

Early versions of the engine had a problem with sticking valves – far more evident in the UK (and in cold climates), where a driving style with earlier gear changes is more common than on the Continent – unless a special Ford formulation of oil was used. After small changes in 1995 to fix this problem the engine was known as the Zetec-E. This engine received a plastic inlet manifold and EGR derived from the Mondeo.

The Zetec had another redesign in 1998. This version, the Zetec-R, had a two-piece crankcase which helped damp out noise and vibration, conventional tappets with shims rather than hydraulic ones, and longer connecting rods with a lower piston compression height. This engine was used in turbocharged form in the Focus RS and had 212 bhp (158 kW; 215 PS) (dubbed Duratec RS). It was also used in the Focus ST170 with a cylinder head modified by Cosworth with Variable Valve Timing on the inlet cam and had 170 bhp (127 kW; 172 PS).

The Zetec can be identified by having a silver cam cover with "DOHC 16v" on the bottom left. The Zetec-E has "ZETEC 16v" on the bottom left, and the Zetec-R has a black plastic cam cover. The Focus RS and ST170 (SVT) are both Zetec-R engines, despite being branded Duratec.

Production of the Zeta family lasted from September 1991 through December 2004. Displacement ranged from 1.6 L to 2.0 L.

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No build stamps on the front slam panel or the from wings that relate to around 1990/91?. And does the last 7 digits of the vin have a unique serial number like a typical vin that matches the engine number?
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its got a full chassis number but the last two letters before the numbers dont cross reference on the charts to any year or month think it said zx or something and the factory built part didnt cross over to a listed factory.

the last part is numbers but i didnt go as far as checking the engine number

im pretty sure non of the part numbers cross either

next time is see it i'll have another dig around it

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Get some.pictures if you can.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 05:00 PM
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i'll ask the guy if i can take some pics next time i see him, its going to be for sale at some point next year once he sorts some bits out, 3000 miles from new cool as
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This is the fiesta in the haynes museum.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Ive seen that fiesta a few times before.
fast forward 20 years and fiat have a two stroke in their 500
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chris cdti
Ive seen that fiesta a few times before.
fast forward 20 years and fiat have a two stroke in their 500

You mean 2 cylinder!!
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Originally Posted by RichieST
You mean 2 cylinder!!
that's what I'm thinking Rich
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