Looking at changing my car in the coming months, had my heart set on a mk2 focus RS.
Since seen e92 m3's are also within price range. What'd you rather have given the chance?...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus...item566a4e892e

Or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-M3-2dr...52510087&rt=nc

Tricky choice to me...

 

Simples........ M3

 

neither

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...--2005/2855730

 

THAT is a bloody bargain

 

As much as I love the Focus RS it would have to be an M3

 

Only bargains when they're reliable lol

Focus vs M3 ?...really a no brainer. M3

Would be kind of hard to even compare the two

 

That's why you would buy one with a bmw warranty so if it breaks you just call bmw up and they come get the car and fix it for nothing

 

M3 for me too, but with a straight rear number plate

 

Go and road test them and make your own mind up.

 

No brainer for me, M3 all the way, more toys, better build quality, choice of gearboxes, saloon or coupe, better interior, rwd, way more power, that took me about 10 seconds to think of, that's how easy it is.

 

Nice! That's yours then, I'm sure I recognise the street from pics. What's next?
My mate had a touring version and the fuel economy was downright ridiculous

 

M3 without question, ive driven both a few times.

 

Just how bad is the fuel economy?

 

About 12 mpg iirc, e39 m5 gets about 17-19 mpg average, e60 is far worse on fuel and also has a shitty stupidly small fuel tank as well, just for added annoyance to the already crap mpg figures.

M3 e9X isn't too great on fuel either, you'd be looking at 20mpg if you're only modestly using it, or less.

 

Wouldn't need to think about it. M3 all the way.

 

Fuel economy isn't as bad as everyone makes out. I've seen 24mpg on a steady 80mph motorway run and even 22mpg combined out of a full tank. Realistically though your looking about 17 18mpg normally

 

Having driven a Focus RS and M3 then I'd choose the BMW every time. They have a better feel to them in terms of quality and drive. Get a DCT version, too.

 

M3.

Martin

 

M3

 

M3. End of debate!

And I love the RS.

 

anywhere from single figures to 15 at a push. It got a LOT of right foot action and was scary on fuel

 

Nothing, I'm looking for another house to rent out so could do with the money for that but not essential that it sells.

 

Buy my house Alps....

 

The fact people are concerned about MPGs with cars such as these makes me laugh

M3 all the way, there is no comparison.

 

Looks the focus, everything else the M3

 

As much as I don't really like them, Audi RS4 prices are really good. When you compare what you're getting for your money (all be it slightly older) its a FAR better car than a Focus, that's if you want to consider an alternative to an M3.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281439098166

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141377770734

 

I love them RS4s Rog. I would defo have one.

 

Hi Glenn, would you ignore me as well when I humbled you in my old Sapphire like the guy I told you about recently??
Cheers Richard.

 

I had the touring, recently sold at grassicks perth as an approved used bmw with 2 year warranty, whoever bought it will certainly need it.

I loved the car, only downsides were the gearbox and the fact it would cut the power mid drift if the foot brake was applied. For most people driving style/skills it wouldn't matter. Gearbox was good when flatout and did what you told it up and down the gears. I'd have prefered manual but not available.

I had a few problems, most down to hard use/abuse.

As for fuel, possibly the worst car I've ever owned on fuel. My average mpg over around 10/15k miles was 9.Xmpg, 15mpg on a decent normal run. Usually hovered around 10/11mpg in town driving. A fast run would read 7mpg which is as low as the mpg calculator would so probably worse. So to sum is crap on fuel but to be expected on a car that easily does 200mph.

As for the original question, M3 no brainer. V8 M3 is alot better on fuel than the M5, average 18/20, 24/25mpg on a run. Obviously these figures are alot worse if driven hard everywhere.

 

Sorry ,what sort of BMW did you own that"" easily does 200 mph ", as far as i am aware the only one that can get near that is an M5 with its speed restrictor bypassed ?

 

I'd read that as an M5 owner.

I'd pic the M3 over the focus

 

Does your M5 " easily do 200 mph?"

 

You might want to re-read my post, I haven't indicated I own an M5.

But since he has quoted single figure MPG and the M5 is the only M-Car which will do over 200mph, I've stated I think 3FRD is referring to an M5

 

mine does lol

 

As he mentions it was a Touring, together with a slightly crap gearbox, crap MPG and 200mph I'd say it would be safe to guess he was talking about an E61 M5.

Which does indeed do 200mph, without the limiter of course.

 

I had the RS, and my dad has the M3, i loved the Rs, but i wouldnt pay anythign over Ł10k for another one... whereas i think the M3 is probably worth it jsut for the small things like windows not rattling while driving along...

 

So you run yours without BMWs speed restrictor? BMW restrict the speed to 155mph but according to them you can have the upgrade to up the top speed to 190 mph so i still wonder how yours easily does 200mph.

 

pretty obvious its been derestricted so it has no top speed limiter.

Your being sarcastic but you really are making a fool of yourself.

An e60 m5 will indeed do 200mph "easy" when derestricted which is simple to do

 

Not being sarcastic just going on what BMW say about the M5. Obviously their figures are below what can be acheived in the real world.

 

sarcasm again. Bmw's figures aren't below what can be achieved. They state 155 limited which is realistically 170ish then they do a performance option in Germany like you say but fully derestricted they do 205mph.

You were sarcastic about them doing 200mph and were wrong and now your trying to back peddle so you don't make more of a bellemd out of yourself