Carbon Fibre seats
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Evening guys! Im gettin me older Brother to make me a pair of Carbon Fibre seats in the summer, Gonna look well smart and save a couple of Kg's
What y'all think?
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I know very little about CF. Only that theres 2 types. The Vac type and the other sort. Pre-preg? Oh and its nasty nasty shit when you grind it.
Bear in mind this is the guy who wants a new intercooler because his hoses keep coming off, so Ive got no faith in anything the guy does
Bear in mind this is the guy who wants a new intercooler because his hoses keep coming off, so Ive got no faith in anything the guy does
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Originally Posted by Rich_w
I know very little about CF. Only that theres 2 types. The Vac type and the other sort. Pre-preg? Oh and its nasty nasty shit when you grind it.
Bear in mind this is the guy who wants a new intercooler because his hoses keep coming off, so Ive got no faith in anything the guy does
Bear in mind this is the guy who wants a new intercooler because his hoses keep coming off, so Ive got no faith in anything the guy does

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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Originally Posted by JimRS
Mounting frames are gonna b Carbon!
Originally Posted by Rich_w
I know very little about CF. Only that theres 2 types. The Vac type and the other sort. Pre-preg? Oh and its nasty nasty shit when you grind it.
Bear in mind this is the guy who wants a new intercooler because his hoses keep coming off, so Ive got no faith in anything the guy does
Bear in mind this is the guy who wants a new intercooler because his hoses keep coming off, so Ive got no faith in anything the guy does

and u guys telling me that grs isnt crap? i dont think so guys grs is cheap and nasty
Originally Posted by SteveRS1980
just to let u guys know jim rs brother is a yacht builder he uses carbon all the time i think he knows what he is doing dont u? 

Basically I know a guy whose VERY VERY good with CF. Hes thinking about getting into doing parts for Performance Cars as a sideline. Currently doing a Quattro Rear wing and has done a Bonnet for an RX7. (his brothers IIRC)
Anyway, and I'll try to be accurate. He says theres 2 sorts of people doing C/F work at the moment. Those who build yachts and swimming pools. These are the people that reinforce with Glas fibre and have bonnets that are far too floppy when finished so need a frame put inside them. Basically they've seen that CF is becoming popular and are trying to cash in.
Then theres the other type of builder who has worked in Premier League motorsport and various other "interesting" projects. And have made bonnets that are self supporting and weigh less than the competitions. Downside is that it isnt cheap compared to the other type
I'll let you work out which category he falls into
the problem was that i didnt rip into neither of you then i get this
when ur talking millions of pounds worth of yacht ie newzeland endever u need to keep it as light as u can ie racing yachts
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I dont understand all this, I havent done nothing wrong. I only asked for advice and i get some matey 'RICH W' which should be 'DICK W' callin me a downer!
Thought this site is for Friendly answers and avice, but I thought wrong!
Thought this site is for Friendly answers and avice, but I thought wrong!
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chill fella's
Its a good idea - and I wish it well
Im all for a bit of DIY but somethings that are readily available on the shelf are sometimes easier just to go out and buy.Dunno if your bro works for himself, but if he looses his job for pinching some stock would you feel happy all for saving Ł200
Sorry - I don't think making your own seat is a good idea. You could find out the hard way that it's not strong enough - severe injury/death in the event of an accident.
Manufacturers do a lot of testing before they sell their seats - the tests have been developed for good reason. For example, the seat and mountings will have to undergo a 25kN (2.5 tonnes) luggage retention sled test (I think it's done at something like 20mph) - that's a lot of kinetic energy the seat and mounts has to absorb/withstand.
You may think "so what - I'm not going to manufacture and sell the seats", but now imagine you've got a passenger behind you and you crash - if they're not belted up, and your seat cracks, the only thing stopping them is you and your seat belt - you'll not be a happy teddy sandwiched between the two. Alternatively, you bin the back seat and fit a harness. The harness fits through/over the seat. In a crash, your forward movement causes a downwards load on the seat from the harness - if the seat cracks, so will your back.
I'm not saying that seats can't be made from C/F, I'm saying that if you can't test your design, I don't think it's a good idea.
Manufacturers do a lot of testing before they sell their seats - the tests have been developed for good reason. For example, the seat and mountings will have to undergo a 25kN (2.5 tonnes) luggage retention sled test (I think it's done at something like 20mph) - that's a lot of kinetic energy the seat and mounts has to absorb/withstand.
You may think "so what - I'm not going to manufacture and sell the seats", but now imagine you've got a passenger behind you and you crash - if they're not belted up, and your seat cracks, the only thing stopping them is you and your seat belt - you'll not be a happy teddy sandwiched between the two. Alternatively, you bin the back seat and fit a harness. The harness fits through/over the seat. In a crash, your forward movement causes a downwards load on the seat from the harness - if the seat cracks, so will your back.
I'm not saying that seats can't be made from C/F, I'm saying that if you can't test your design, I don't think it's a good idea.
You didnt ask for advice, you just said you was gonna get your bro to make you soem carbon seats (and carbon mounts, lol), and what do we think?
We all think its a good idea, but we also think we'l belive it (that they gonna exist and be any good) when we see it.
No advice to give is there....
We all think its a good idea, but we also think we'l belive it (that they gonna exist and be any good) when we see it.
No advice to give is there....
dont kit cars use them. Like nuts rus says could be easier just buying some have a look on some kit car sites, afterall do you want them pulling out the floor if you have an accident(ps that is not a dig at your brothers skills just stating they may not be as good or strong as an established company could make them)
Originally Posted by jon@work
Sorry - I don't think making your own seat is a good idea. You could find out the hard way that it's not strong enough - severe injury/death in the event of an accident.
Manufacturers do a lot of testing before they sell their seats - the tests have been developed for good reason. For example, the seat and mountings will have to undergo a 25kN (2.5 tonnes) luggage retention sled test (I think it's done at something like 20mph) - that's a lot of kinetic energy the seat and mounts has to absorb/withstand.
You may think "so what - I'm not going to manufacture and sell the seats", but now imagine you've got a passenger behind you and you crash - if they're not belted up, and your seat cracks, the only thing stopping them is you and your seat belt - you'll not be a happy teddy sandwiched between the two. Alternatively, you bin the back seat and fit a harness. The harness fits through/over the seat. In a crash, your forward movement causes a downwards load on the seat from the harness - if the seat cracks, so will your back.
I'm not saying that seats can't be made from C/F, I'm saying that if you can't test your design, I don't think it's a good idea.
Manufacturers do a lot of testing before they sell their seats - the tests have been developed for good reason. For example, the seat and mountings will have to undergo a 25kN (2.5 tonnes) luggage retention sled test (I think it's done at something like 20mph) - that's a lot of kinetic energy the seat and mounts has to absorb/withstand.
You may think "so what - I'm not going to manufacture and sell the seats", but now imagine you've got a passenger behind you and you crash - if they're not belted up, and your seat cracks, the only thing stopping them is you and your seat belt - you'll not be a happy teddy sandwiched between the two. Alternatively, you bin the back seat and fit a harness. The harness fits through/over the seat. In a crash, your forward movement causes a downwards load on the seat from the harness - if the seat cracks, so will your back.
I'm not saying that seats can't be made from C/F, I'm saying that if you can't test your design, I don't think it's a good idea.
i thought it was a good idea until i read this...........
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jon@work, thank-you.
Some things are best left to the professionals.
( Not saying your bro isn't Jim)
Door cards & bonnet fine
Safety items .... no thanks
Some things are best left to the professionals.
( Not saying your bro isn't Jim) Door cards & bonnet fine
Safety items .... no thanks
Then stop writing drivel. And I wont take the piss
You started off stupid. With the "Just bought a shitter, its my fault but can I blame someone else post" And your brother/mate? just as stupid HERE
Funny how it turns out to be pretty good actually! HERE
Then there was the "Intercoolers shit, need a new one"
post because the hoses kept blowing off.
Now you reckon you can make Carbon Fibre seats
Wheres that video clip you should watch about "Guide to Posting"
Oh here it is
http://www.nearlygood.com/video/posting.html
You started off stupid. With the "Just bought a shitter, its my fault but can I blame someone else post" And your brother/mate? just as stupid HERE
Funny how it turns out to be pretty good actually! HERE
Then there was the "Intercoolers shit, need a new one"
post because the hoses kept blowing off.
Now you reckon you can make Carbon Fibre seats
Wheres that video clip you should watch about "Guide to Posting"
Oh here it is
http://www.nearlygood.com/video/posting.html



