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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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not sure what to go for on the 3dr, avo coilovers or konis with uprated springs, opinions please.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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I had Konis on my 3dr with various springs, wasnt to impressed with the ride and NEVER was i totally happy with the ride height.

Then had AVO coilovers, on softest i felt it was more comfy than the Konis, certainly felt like it handled better, and finally i had the ride height exactly how i wanted it front n rear.

So i vote AVOs
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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coilover's allway's of course ? need you ask nice car by the way!!!!leda braintree
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pauldudley
coilover's allway's of course ? need you ask nice car by the way!!!!leda braintree
ledas are nice but a bit pricey i think
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Gaz Coilovers
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Steve,
You get what you pay for with suspension . The AVOs and GAZ are a budget product purely for cosmetic purposes only and are not "really" suitable for track days (by AVO's own admission in a recent issue of PF). Also you will find that if you go for the spring rates specified by these companies as being suitable for the car, the ride turns to rat-shit.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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Oh yer, get the right spring rates too

Ian3DR has just fitted GAZ coilovers on his Bufty wagon and he is VERY impressed with them
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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leda also have a 4 week turnaround on suspension..
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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The new generation of AVO from that small list of two

They now work like Bilsteins with the inverted insert and come with rebound adjustability. Over twice the price of the Gaz stuff so they are not toys anymore The stock AVO is no good as Mike said, but the specialist one is much much better
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Whats wrong with Koni coilovers? I am in the middle of fitting them to my car just now.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Mikey- At softest setting id say the AVOs i had were a perfectly acceptable ride.

Jus wondering, why arnt they any good for track use?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Steve,
Because the bump and rebound rates are not sufficient for a start, plus they're not heavy duty enough....
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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how much are the new avo's?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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I have a set of 2wd AVOs boxed never fitted £480
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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Spadge has got a BRAND NEW set of AVO coilovers in the sale section
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by B11GNS
how much are the new avo's?
The half decent new ones retail from their website at £225.60 each plus p&p

Thats circa £170 each plus roughly £22 for a spring rate of your choice (plus vat and carriage).

Thats for a steel bodied, double damped, spherical bearing coilover.

HTH
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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I got a set of coil overs for my 3 dr but have since been told the the turrets are not up to the job and need to be modified ie made stronger??? on the gaz web site they tell you to get the turrets made stronger, does make sense as all the weight is on that one shock rather than a spring and a seperate shock?????????
I have also been told you need to bash the rear inner wing in a touch to get enough clearence for the coilover??

I hope someone can shed some more light on this subject
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Yes, you have to "Tweek" the rear body about 3mm by all accounts

Rubber hammer time
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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If you don't want to spend too much then the GAZ coilovers seem to be the ones to go for, and that's what i'll be putting on my escy next month...and coseymad is the man to supply them..
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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my worked for gaz basildon they are copies of spax they are good value i thought you wanted the best......
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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not happy about baning my inner wing in

i got avos already so i have not got a choice
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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I've had both Gaz and AVO's in recent past and imo the AVO's are better!
PS i also have as Tiff pointed out a brand new set in the for sale section
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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ive got gaz. can't fault em for the money.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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I'm not sure, i have the money to spend on expensive ones, just didn't want to spend that much on suspension, maybe i should.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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What is wrong with Koni coilovers????????????????????????????????????????? ???
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Yes, you have to "Tweek" the rear body about 3mm by all accounts

Rubber hammer time
Lol! More like 5lb ball pain hammer! Enjoy! I did smacking fook out the inner arch!
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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I thought koni didn't make them for sierra or is it a new thing?
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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I had a set of custom made konis on the front of my old 3dr, would prefer new purpose made ones this time
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