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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Hi, i am currently looking to buy a saff but i was after a bit of advice as to which i should go for ie. 2wd or 4x4 what are the pros and cons of them both, is it true 4x4 gearboxes can be a bit dodgy? and what kind of stuff should i be looking for as i have no experience with cossies at all?
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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They are only "dodgy" once u go over a certain amount of power.
Pros and cons are mainly how easily you can tune them, ie. the 4x4 box cant take as much power as the 2wd so is alot more expensive if u want to go futher.
2wd is obviously arse out time and can be a big handful in the wet. If you dont know what u are doing its not going to be long till you meet the hedge!
Go for one with either low mileage or one that has been rebuilt (engine) within the last few years. Make sure its got as much history as possible and has been looked after.
All the usual checks when buying a car apply...
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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as above....and it depends on if you drive your car every day or not....
i believe it rains in the UK as much as it does here in holland....
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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yeah i would be driving it pretty much every day
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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If you're not sure I'd say go for a 4x4, the traction is great and it's going to be safer unless you are used to high power RWD cars. The price difference isn't that much, and you only need to worry about the strength of the 4wd system if you're going for big bhp (ie. over 350 I think??).
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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4x4 if you're gonna use it in the winter. If not, buy a 2wd.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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go for a 4x4 m8 with all the bad weather hear def the safer choice i have a 4x4 loads of grip and great 2 launch
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Yea 4x4 but I'm biased

The gear box is the same as that used in the XR4x4 and is stronger then the T5 which is used in the 2wd, its just that when upping the power in a 4x4 there's alot more work that the box has to contend with cos is four wheel drive isn't it
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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biased too!! would go for a 2wd just dont go mad for a little while
then let the fun begin and steer from the rear
even more fun when it rains
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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if i was gonna do it all over again i'd deffinately go for a 4x4 but there's no chance of me swapping mine now cos i love it too much

2wd is useless in the wet to say the least, got beaten by my mates RS2000 the other day on roundabouts etc.

basicly i'd say when buying one spend as much as you can afford but make sure it's got concrete history to back up the price. no point spending 3k on a OK example thats going to need rear arches and a engine rebuild in 6-12 months time.

check all the usual places for rot. inner wings, boot floor, chassis rails etc. don't forget even the latest sapphs are 12 years old now.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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i just got my first cossy. and went 4 a 2wd. LOADS OV FUN.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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2wd, I sold my 4x4 scooby for some 2wd action. Now it's dry and the suns out I can really start to have some fun
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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2WD all the way you know you wanna
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 02:24 AM
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4x4 for everyday use

But rwd is more fun
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Originally Posted by wildheart
But rwd is more fun
People who say that just don't know how to drive
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Manxlad
Yea 4x4 but I'm biased

The gear box is the same as that used in the XR4x4 and is stronger then the T5 which is used in the 2wd, its just that when upping the power in a 4x4 there's alot more work that the box has to contend with cos is four wheel drive isn't it
I totaly agree with you on that one the main problem with a 4x4 box is in fact the transfer box as when they do fail which isnt that often they lunch the whole box
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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How easily can you get the back end on a 4x4 to let go, and what percentage of the power goes where?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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i believe it is a 34%, 66% split, but as i still have not got a cossie i dont know how easy it is to get the back out on a 4x4
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Old May 1, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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I'd get a 4x4 mate, and the percentage of TORQUE that goes to front/rear is 34/66 as mentioned (this can be changed though )
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Old May 2, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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2wd everytime, all the great performance cars are rwd
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Old May 2, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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I'd get a 4WD if I was after piece of mind but........
I'd go for a 2WD if you're after extra fun

Hell, Im biased
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Old May 2, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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I'd go for a 2WD if you're after extra fun
All depends how you define fun...

To me, fun is being able nail it out of a wet roundabout with your passenger grinning at the smug git in his scooby as you power on past... glad I chose the 4x4

Biased of course

As for transmission, I don't think they're as bad as a lot of peeps make out. I was told almost 10 yrs ago to start saving for a new gearbox... 60,000 miles later it's still going. Noisey as fook like...
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Old May 3, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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4x4 is for girls
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Old May 4, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Im selling my 2wd, if you fancy it!
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