Alcohol Injection.
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Alcohol Injection.
Like water injection, but far better.
People only use water I think as thats whats legal to use on Rallycars etc, and Alcohol inj is against the rules, and most road mods are derived from Racing/Rallying...
Anyone know anything about it?
Ive heard tons about it on US forums, people running mega power with no intercooler at all, just alky injection
What do they mean by alcohol? Pure alcohol no? Methanol it seems from what he wrote? Where do you buy methanol or pure 100% alcohol from n what it cost? 
People only use water I think as thats whats legal to use on Rallycars etc, and Alcohol inj is against the rules, and most road mods are derived from Racing/Rallying...
Anyone know anything about it?
Ive heard tons about it on US forums, people running mega power with no intercooler at all, just alky injection
I drive it daily and put about 250 miles a week on it. 31 pounds of boost (what's that, like 2.1 bar?) on pump gas and alcohol, all day and every day.
I use an injection kit that uses it's own nozzle and fuel source, similar to the Aquamist kit. www.alkycontrol.com.
It's very nice, I was getting some big knock at 20-21 psi on pump gas before, but with the alcohol injection 31 pounds daily is no problem.
I've had it higher, like 35 psi/2.4 bar, but it made me nervous pouring that much boost into my daily driver.
My car performs as well on 93 octane plus methanol injection as it did running straight 110 octane in the tank, it honestly is the best money I have spent on my car aside from the bigger turbo.
At 31 psi it's made 680 RWHP, but keep in mind that's through a heavy automatic transmission and a fairly loose torque converter, that would be closer to 750 through a standard trans.
That bests what I could do on plain pump gas by a little over 100 RWHP, hard to complain with that!
I use an injection kit that uses it's own nozzle and fuel source, similar to the Aquamist kit. www.alkycontrol.com.
It's very nice, I was getting some big knock at 20-21 psi on pump gas before, but with the alcohol injection 31 pounds daily is no problem.
I've had it higher, like 35 psi/2.4 bar, but it made me nervous pouring that much boost into my daily driver.
My car performs as well on 93 octane plus methanol injection as it did running straight 110 octane in the tank, it honestly is the best money I have spent on my car aside from the bigger turbo.
At 31 psi it's made 680 RWHP, but keep in mind that's through a heavy automatic transmission and a fairly loose torque converter, that would be closer to 750 through a standard trans.
That bests what I could do on plain pump gas by a little over 100 RWHP, hard to complain with that!
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In those terms, "alcohol" will mean Methanol Steve, yes.
Don't loose sight of the corrosive effect that methanol has on a lot of rubbers and aluminium, so choose your system components accordingly
Don't loose sight of the corrosive effect that methanol has on a lot of rubbers and aluminium, so choose your system components accordingly
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Don't loose sight of the corrosive effect that methanol has on a lot of rubbers and aluminium, so choose your system components accordingly
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Its not for power gaz, its to stop det enabling you to run fuckloads more boost on pump fuel rather than going onto race fuel, read the quote!
Just spraying a bit of pure methanol rather than water
Just spraying a bit of pure methanol rather than water
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gives original aircraft reasons for methanol in there!
http://www.dave-cushman.net/misc/mannject.html
http://www.dave-cushman.net/misc/mannject.html
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It only seems to inject a tiny amount, so a 5gallon can would last for bloody ever.
Got the same worries about "relying" on water injection too tho, if it runs out or fails, blammo, but then you could say the same about a fuel injector, a sensor, anything really i guess
Got the same worries about "relying" on water injection too tho, if it runs out or fails, blammo, but then you could say the same about a fuel injector, a sensor, anything really i guess
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seems the germans originally used it mixed with water too,so even longer,apparently to stop it freezing at altitude,but think a 50 50 mix is good at any level,dunno why,explains in second link i think.dont like WI meself tho!
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someone else asking this got some answers here
http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?...TOPIC_ID=35929
http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?...TOPIC_ID=35929
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Im NOT interested in a water/meth mix or anything like that, im talking pure methanol spray here, like the link i posted.
Gareth- With my comp ratio and intercooler i dont think il have a problem at all on pump fuel, even at silly boost like 2.5bar, but can get good gains from ign advance too cant you...
Gareth- With my comp ratio and intercooler i dont think il have a problem at all on pump fuel, even at silly boost like 2.5bar, but can get good gains from ign advance too cant you...
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Gareth- With my comp ratio and intercooler i dont think il have a problem at all on pump fuel, even at silly boost like 2.5bar, but can get good gains from ign advance too cant you...
some people just want it all
race fuel could be the way to go,, and have two maps
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race fuel is horrendously expensive, and i want to be able to run my maximum on the road anytime i want, its a road car afterall, i dont want to go to the hastle of swapping fuels just to give it its all.
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Il make sure i can, keep a stock, model shops sell it i think.
I dunno how much itd use.
Id prob not bother bearing in mind my car can probably take all the boost i want with no set anyhow.
This post was mainly to see if anyone knew anything about pure alky inj, and so far i guess not
I dunno how much itd use.
Id prob not bother bearing in mind my car can probably take all the boost i want with no set anyhow.
This post was mainly to see if anyone knew anything about pure alky inj, and so far i guess not
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Im NOT interested in a water/meth mix or anything like that, im talking pure methanol spray here, like the link i posted.
Gareth- With my comp ratio and intercooler i dont think il have a problem at all on pump fuel, even at silly boost like 2.5bar, but can get good gains from ign advance too cant you...
Gareth- With my comp ratio and intercooler i dont think il have a problem at all on pump fuel, even at silly boost like 2.5bar, but can get good gains from ign advance too cant you...
have a look here,VERY well informed people it seems,talking everything from 50 50 mix to pure methanol with pump gas etc......!
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=673
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