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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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Evening all - my 2008 Focus ST is about due for a set of front discs & pads ,

Just wondering what other people were running brake wise ,

Was thinking along the lines of EBC drilled & grooved discs & green stuff pads ? dont want to go down massive brake route yet , just looking for something better that will fit same as standard stuff

There are a load of topics on focus stoc , my heid was frazzled trying to work out which was best !! , so thought id pop a thread up on here

Car isnt standard , running DSCi map - turbo back zorst , airtec gen3 cooler , k&n panel filter ,

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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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Most of it is down to personal preference mate but I would always sway towards a grooved disc rather than one with holes in it due to the strength of the disc being better being grooved only. Dimpled is OK also for the same reasons. Brembo, Red Dot, Tarox, all decent brake manufacturers.

Pad choice, I would say Mintex, Ferodo, Brembo etc are all good choices. EBC brakes have had mixed opinion on many forums I've been on over many topics.
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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Most of it is down to personal preference mate but I would always sway towards a grooved disc rather than one with holes in it due to the strength of the disc being better being grooved only. Dimpled is OK also for the same reasons. Brembo, Red Dot, Tarox, all decent brake manufacturers.

Pad choice, I would say Mintex, Ferodo, Brembo etc are all good choices. EBC brakes have had mixed opinion on many forums I've been on over many topics.
Thanks for the feedback mate - Just been looking on the EBC brakeshop funnily enough , and I quite liked the look of the turbogroove discs and redstuff pads ...,

Looks like its gonna take some shopping around ! ,

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i used ebc discs and 114 mintex pads in mine would use ebc pads at all
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i used ebc discs and 114 mintex pads in mine would use ebc pads at all
How did you find them mate ? nice stopping power ?
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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very good but i always use mintex lol i have them in my cossie now
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very good but i always use mintex lol i have them in my cossie now
Was them M1144 pads dude? , just priced a set up on pumaspeeds website £100 ... as used by m-sport they reckon
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Was them M1144 pads dude? , just priced a set up on pumaspeeds website £100 ... as used by m-sport they reckon
the 1144 is the one a good fast road pad
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay,
the 1144 is the one a good fast road pad
Hmm, might try a set of them with some EBC turbo groove discs then I reckon ! , so much to choose from ! , and no fookin money this month !!

Cheers for the advice mate
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I have used tarox sport japan range! I managed to warp the standard ones at a track day, where as these ones are still true!

Another nice thing about them is that they are balanced like a wheel too so adds to stability at high speed!
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I've tried most types of pad in my time, in lots of different cars,

The best by a large margin are what I'm running in the porsche at the moment, carbone Lorraine RC6,
They are a little noisy on some callipers and are quite dusty, but the pedal feel and braking ability is out of this world!

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Thanks for the replies lads ! seems some more googling is required ! , oh and cash
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Standard discs with DS2500 pads for me!
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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I had standard discs with ford pads in my old one and they were brilliant! The car had 300 odd hp and never got them to fade even after a hammering. I wouldnf touch ebc stuff, ive always found it to be utter turd
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I found the ds2500 very dusty, they did fade on track and the pad material fell to pieces after one trackday
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A lot of different opinions ! , I have heard a lot of people say Std ford discs and DS2500's were a good combo - I wont be doing any trackdays in it james , so would you say they would be more suited to the road ?
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It was a few years ago I used them so the compound may well have changed, I found them very dusty even on road use.
I'm sure they would be fine though.

Not a shade on RC6s though! Even the RC5 fast road compound won't fade till over 1000deg

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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
It was a few years ago I used them so the compound may well have changed, I found them very dusty even on road use.
I'm sure they would be fine though.

Not a shade on RC6s though!
Thanks mate - does MSD sell RC6's ?
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No mate, we don't do any brake stuff at the moment

I used red stuff and yellow stuff in the bm, and they felt like rubber brake blocks compared to these RC6s lol.

It's all down to how you use them and how you like them to feel, I know in all the types I've tried I've never been 100% happy, and never had 100% confidence, but now I can finally say I've found the pad I've been looking for, they are awesome! Spark at night too lol.

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Focus-St22...item43aca60a0b

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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
No mate, we don't do any brake stuff at the moment
No worries mate - will do a search on the net ! , thanks for your advice
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Whoopsies ! suppose I shoudlve really started the thread in this section..., mybad ! , cheers to whoever moved it for me
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How hard do you drive? I'm sure they would be fine for normal use but I would kill those pads in about 10 miles
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
How hard do you drive? I'm sure they would be fine for normal use but I would kill those pads in about 10 miles
Im not flat out everywhere mate - but without saying too much , I do enjoy the odd naughty speed blast now and again - I have had fade with the std brakes [only once] , but this maybe down to the fact they are getting worn & scored now !

Found the pads you were on about If I priced them right they were about £290 !!! so they must be shit hot !!
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Originally Posted by RichieST
Standard discs with DS2500 pads for me!
Bang on set up with bradied lines
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They are quite dear, I think front and rear on the porka was nearly £300, I use the RC6E on the rear which are the endurance compound,they last for ages.

They are proper track pads used in all sorts of race events like NASCAR etc etc, serious things, they also stop lots of fighter jets and trains

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Originally Posted by Matt Lewis
Bang on set up with bradied lines
Thanks for the input Matt
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
They are quite dear, I think front and rear on the porka was nearly £300, I use the RC6E on the rear which are the endurance compound,they last for ages.

They are proper track pads used in all sorts of race events like NASCAR etc etc, serious things, they also stop lots of fighter jets and trains
The porker sounds a right beast mate ! , I will certainly consider them for future use or if I get a "faster" ford , - many thanks for your time & input if im ever around the blackpool area i'd love to call into your premises
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Feel free mate the kettle is always on
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Thanks to everyone for the tips & advice - have taken everyones thoughts on board , not ignoring any comments here - but for the time being im gonna opt for standard ford discs and ferodo DS2500 brake pads !

Many thanks for the replies
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Good idea and do a good brake fluid flush as well, as thats probably why your brakes faded previously.
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Originally Posted by Thrustyjust
Good idea and do a good brake fluid flush as well, as thats probably why your brakes faded previously.
Its already had a fluid change when the clutch was replaced recently mate , but I wouldve done it anyways , cheers
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