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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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Default And i thought £75k for a Sierra RS500 was lunacy...

SIXTY ONE FUCKING GRAND, for a Cosworth YB engine.....how much engine lube was being licked, whilst building it ffs!!


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It's a genuine JG rally cross engine, I don't see the biggy?
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Originally Posted by the_frozen_one
It's a genuine JG rally cross engine, I don't see the biggy?
Likewise!
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That's fucking stupid money... seller needs to either give His head a shake or recieve a quick a thorogh kick to the ballz
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Originally Posted by the_frozen_one
It's a genuine JG rally cross engine, I don't see the biggy?
Ohh fuck sorry, that makes it "in the money" then...


Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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im sure that engine used to be for sale at £55,000 a few months back .
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxwell
Ohh fuck sorry, that makes it "in the money" then...


You misunderstand what the engine is, it's not a yeehaw cowboy rebuild with +0.25s here there and everywhere.

You also clearly don't realise the money/time/labour that goes into a proper competition motor.

If there is more than £5k profit in that engine I'd be surprised, sounds a lot but its less than a 10% margin. Ford make about 50% on replacement engines, sometimes more.

I mean no offence btw. 61k for a rebuilt YB for a saph yeah it's cuckoo but 61k for that, off the shelf, ready to go, ain't too bad
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:34 PM
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For an engine at that cash.....i would be expecting a W16 from a Veyron ffs!!

That particular engine (no matter how all singing or all dancing it is), is nearly 2 and a half times the price, of what a sierra sapphire cosworth was when they where brand new!!
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:34 PM
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Try looking at a parts list for one of the Olsberg MSE Duratec turbo rallycross engines!
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The girdle + drysump is 8k those throttle bodies 5k. My inconel twin scroll manifold was 3.5k that one a lot lot more. Thats just tack on bits its an expensive game.
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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Julian sells 20-30 of these a year it's quite well known fact through the race industry if you want to be competitive andwinthrnyou use his engines
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Originally Posted by the_frozen_one
You misunderstand what the engine is, it's not a yeehaw cowboy rebuild with +0.25s here there and everywhere.

You also clearly don't realise the money/time/labour that goes into a proper competition motor.

If there is more than £5k profit in that engine I'd be surprised, sounds a lot but its less than a 10% margin. Ford make about 50% on replacement engines, sometimes more.

I mean no offence btw. 61k for a rebuilt YB for a saph yeah it's cuckoo but 61k for that, off the shelf, ready to go, ain't too bad

And let's not forget the years of development
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Originally Posted by Maxwell
For an engine at that cash.....i would be expecting a W16 from a Veyron ffs!!

That particular engine (no matter how all singing or all dancing it is), is nearly 2 and a half times the price, of what a sierra sapphire cosworth was when they where brand new!!
Just because you wouldn't pay this price for an engine doesn't mean it's not worth price the seller is asking.

And somehow I don't think you would get a veyron engine for 60k either
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LOL at the price being justified!!!

Any more takers??? I'm intrigued....
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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Lol the price was justified when people pay it on regular basis , just because a uneducated person thinks its to much doesn't make it any less intriguing fact is they sell at that money I can't see why you have a issue with it do you want one but your a fiver short ?
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Price up to make and buy the thing new... And that's where a expensive price tags come from.
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Originally Posted by Jay,
Lol the price was justified when people pay it on regular basis
Maybe some people simply have too much money? Buy why advertise it on ebay? Must not be a "regular" buy in that case...

just because a uneducated person thinks its to much doesn't make it any less intriguing fact is they sell at that money
So am i being classed as a retard??

I can't see why you have a issue with it do you want one but your a fiver short ?
yes that is exactly what it is Jay...fancy lending me a fiver?
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxwell
Maybe some people simply have too much money? Buy why advertise it on ebay? Must not be a "regular" buy in that case...



So am i being classed as a retard??



yes that is exactly what it is Jay...fancy lending me a fiver?

To much money not people pay to get results mate , No not a retard but uneducated in how much is involved in a proper race engine and I know he sells plenty of builds what is ur PayPal addy
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I saw the words Julian Godfrey and just thought aaahhhhh, that explains A LOT.
AFAIK he's the guy to go to if you want a competition engine to win with, maybe only 520bhp, but look at the torque !!
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To be honest, i might spend the £60,995 i have into learning how proper race engines are built.

In the mean time, i await some more comedy post's!! And thank you guy's...my wednesday night has finished off nicely
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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At the end of the day these guys and girls who compete in rally cross do so to win and if that means they go to mr Godfrey and have one of his builds then that's what they have to do

And as said I bet most of that bill is for parts alone and machine work.
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Plus to add a Godfrey engine will do multiple races with out issue so that's where the money also goes

Bet a cheaper engine competing in the same races will need a few rebuilds so could end up costing more
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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The average super car in rallycross is £250,000 the engine bill isn't that bad lol
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Originally Posted by Jay,
And let's not forget the years of development
Was going to elaborate on things such as that if required, couldn't be bothered with an essay, am posting from a phone.

Ford would dearly love for the engines I work on everyday to only cost £61k!
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:23 PM
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Lol at uneducated folk laughing at the price. There's a lot of work, parts and a lifetime of R&d in that engine. He sells 20-30 a year so despite what the op thinks it IS worth that price because they do sell.
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These engines are not for the likes of us, this is a full blooded super car rally cross engine.This money is small fry for the top rally cross teams. I remember Martin Schanche getting through 3 engines on one particular weekend event, they discovered it was a management problem in the end causing the engine to run lean - dear hobby!
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I bet all the sponsor ship money buys a lot of parts aswell
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I would hate the PayPal fees tbh
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there are far better ways to get 550 bhp
an LS for instance and it wont cost 60k

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Originally Posted by 1.9 xr2 on 40's
there are far better ways to get 550 bhp
ls1 for instance and it wont cost 60k
And LS1 won't get anywhere near the amount of torque this is kicking out!
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Originally Posted by Danster76
I would hate the PayPal fees tbh
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 1.9 xr2 on 40's
there are far better ways to get 550 bhp
an LS for instance and it wont cost 60k
Mmmmmm..........
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Been a good thread lol, I am also sure this was 55k.

If i have a win on the lotto ill put one in a kit car and tell you all about it.
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give Danny and Luke a couple of 3 grans they can match that power
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Originally Posted by Eigdoog
Been a good thread lol, I am also sure this was 55k.

If i have a win on the lotto ill put one in a kit car and tell you all about it.
Mate, you wouldn't want this engine in anything you're likely to use on the road. I had to drive Julian Godfrey's double championship winning Fiesta with this engine in it a number of times when I worked at Spec-R last year, and is an absolute pig - won't move without stalling below around 6000 rpm
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lot of cash when there was a Ferrari 612 engine for 35k and i think 520 reliable bhp.
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you can buy a w12 engined phaeton for £6k so buy 2 and then weld them together to get an even better engine than the veyron and much cheaper to boot

or you could put one in the front and one in the back and it owuld be twice as good as anything else
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Wow what a price tag that is.
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920 NM Torque! Can see how it costs that much, is hardly "just a YB" !
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Originally Posted by Maxwell
To be honest, i might spend the £60,995 i have into learning how proper race engines are built.

In the mean time, i await some more comedy post's!! And thank you guy's...my wednesday night has finished off nicely
well as the engine in question is a proper race engine lol maybe you could ask Julian to teach you! And I dare say with all the money it must cost as a hole to enter rally cross at that level for a year that 60 grand for an engine that will last and give you a good chance of winning is probably peanuts!



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