http://www.the-ace.org.uk/armageddon/

If this law is enforced by the EU the whole aftermarket of modification will end . period.

 

Already discussed. Unenforceable in the UK.

 

like oranoco said, its all bullshit......

 

Utter crap, won't be happening.

 

Incorrect, read this http://www.nsra.org.uk/newforum/showthread.php?t=56070
they are encouraging everyone to write to their MEPs to try and stop it, to say they are concerned is an understatement.
also checkout the Rods n Sods site.

 

Scaremongering for ya, would you let it happen?

 

I hope it never happens, I have emailed my local MEPs and received two very depressing replies as have other members of the NSRA, although they support us they are few.
Started to read more on this and it is a worry.

 

As has been said, it won't happen... Too many companies will suffer, which will mean further unemployment and debt for the country/government, training will need to be given to those who are required to enforce it (police/mot testers etc) as they won't have the time to drive around stopping every single car thats modified, and that wouldn't be a small task in itself!

A lot of cars don't even exist in standard form, so what are they going to use as a benchmark?! Standard parts are no longer available for a lot of cars, meaning after market is the only option available.

I can however see a change in how modified cars are allowed, perhaps a one off extended test to make sure all the modifications fitted are safe as part of an extended MOT or something but beyond that, it wont happen.... if it does, I'll leave the UK. They've been trying to enforce the same thing with bikes for years, there are always ways around the system.

Every year there seems to be one of these come up, and every year the same debates happen over the forums. Look at the mess this country was in when the fuel crisis happened, do you think that people won't protest about being able to use/own/drive their modified cars?! No chance, in fact I would bet on more people protesting then they did over the fuel prices tbh...

 

Exactly. Surely when a car has non manufacturer specific parts fitted to it, pattern parts like engine components, wings, sills, holes in the floor patched up it should also fall into this category? If this law were to come into force in the next 5 years I will eat all my modifications

 

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we will fight them on the beeches...

 

Could ye do anything about it ?

 

Indeed scaremongering. The government have JUST introduced a " no MOT " Law for pre 1960 vehicles as they actually believe the owners are clever enough to keep them on the road themselves . Now I may be wrong but I don't know many places where you can buy new parts for 50+ year old cars so I'd imagine this means the government trust you to crack out the welder and get fabbing with the tin snips

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18146326. All in there, and infact I quote:

" Mr Penning said the government was committed to cutting out red tape which costs motorists money 'without providing significant overall benefits' "
Which is exactly what I take the first link to be proposing.
Joe.

 

I'm not sure, but I'd have a bloody good go at it if I need too.

 

TBH, while there is some merit in what they done, I know some people with old cars, and there is also a lot of stupidity in it too.
The only saving grace is pre 60's vehicles really arent on the road that often to be involved in a crash.

Although either way, I'd say accidents down to poor vehicle maintenance are far far far outweighed by accidents down to ballbag drivers. Yet the government does sweet fa about them.

Some of the MP's must own pre 60's cars is the only reason I can think they changed those rules lol

 

Oh i agree! Cloth cap wearing MG drivers all the way Maybe that was just a nice little ploy to get us on side before dropping this bombshell though, really wouldn't put it past them. Its a scary thought though, how many cars would be scrap rendered useless although there is simply too much industry at stake for it to be taken seriously. everything from manufacturers selling extras on your car on the dotted line, to the motorfactors selling you aftermarket oil, leads and plugs, right through the industry to the dent repair workshops and further on down the line.

I think at best someone thought about it, but as a real, enforceable idea its a no go.

 

i still think people need tro watch whats going on the consoltation they do before proposing anything was sneaked in between 2008-2010 so dont be suprised if they try it and our soppy goverment either dont notice or say yes why not lol.

 

This is is a all due to the the fact that our society is ultra risk adverse and we behave like sheep.... This and the fact that the EU doesn't seem to deal with diversity!

 

just wont happen in anything like the format the scaremongerers claim if at all.

Ignoring the modified scene, if everything has to be type approved, what are they going to do about low volume manufacturers and kit car companies that dont need type approval??

you cant suddenly ban a completely legal sector of the motoring industry on a whim. It would not be realistic or practical to do it for kit cars let alone modified cars.

Modified cars have in legal terms always been on dodgy grounds since the EU started meddling with type approvals. You could traditionally get away with mods under the guise of the mods complying with construction and use regs.

if they cant get rid of the kit car scene and always have a method to let non-type approved cars on the road (ie IVA testing) then there will always be a route to keep modified cars on the road.

 

What will probably happen is that new cars that are bought in the uk will not be allowed to be modified at all and any parts fitted must be tuv approved.

How many years this been going on for every other year this crops up

 

I doubt it costina.

impractical to enforce. Imagine if every UK tuner and aftermarket manufacturer had to TUV test its products. Most would go bust as its too cost expensive for most of the small uk manufacturers.

Not forgetting how would you police mods already on cars?? how would you prove that a clean car has older suspension on it versus suspension fitted post TUV which should then have a stamp??

What about replacement parts?? older car parts may not be capable of being made TUV approved so does that mean older cars come off the road because replacement parts arent available???

Also who decides or checks all this??

You couldnt add it to MoT. No MoT station would have the time or possibly have even a small amount of the necessary knowledge (even after training) to know if a part fitted on a car is modified or standard. Let alone checking for TUV stamps would take ages, and a database of such info would be impossibly big and ungainly for implementation through such a testing system. MOT systems use archiac enough old computers as it is

Totally impractical.