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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 07:10 AM
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hi there, is it real that ford produces two types of cars? one for the east countries (which are less good) and one for west countries which are better build?
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 07:35 AM
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Ford do build cars with different spec for different countries and I would say there is many types than just 2
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Oh yea? why the fuck do they?
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Different laws require specs for emissions/safety ect

In the states cars must have side reflectors hence the mini GP has reflectors and jags as it's not worth making different as it's not a issue here but some cars have more difference that are not allowed else where, fog lamps here are law but not in japan
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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As said they build cars for different countries around the world, all to different specs because of laws, but there not in anyway built to a different standard just because its a different country!
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Thats what i was talking about. Here in albania it is said that the fords which come here are for a lower quality compared to those exported to italy austry or west countries. An am asking Ford has a Line of product for east countries?
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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probably more a case that the poverty spec models are better sellers in a poor country hence marketed more.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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i think the guy is asking more about quality control isnt he?

e.g, car comes off production line, if it fails quality control it is exported to the East, if it passes it goes to the West?
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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In the West we demand a better standard and spec than the poorer countries. Would be hard to sell a Mondeo Ghia fully specc'd in Uzbekistan for example.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ermir
Thats what i was talking about. Here in albania it is said that the fords which come here are for a lower quality compared to those exported to italy austry or west countries. An am asking Ford has a Line of product for east countries?
I worked for ford for 15 years and can say that there's deffo not a difference in quality to any country seeing as the majority of fords are produced in Germany,their standards are second to none.
When ford build a car the parts come from all over the world so they have to be made to very fine tolerances,the auditing process is really tough,we used to make brake discs to within 0.1mm tolerance,everything else was scrap,you put your name to it via the ticketing system used so your always accountable.
In the rear diff area we could even get it down to who made the actual part at the time of testing,the results we're logged and stored that included all running and vibration data etc,it was a 10 minute test of all road conditions and that was each and every part that left the production line.
The only thing we did have years ago was that certain parts were labelled "dagenham only",this is because sometimes rough stock has minor defects that in no way affect the parts but could get rejected in the German factories causing huge costs and delays just for ford to say "yes their ok anyway" yet with dagenham (when they were producing cars) if there was an issue a simple phone call and a trip up the m4 to sort.
Sometimes parts fail auditing for things like the angle of a lead chamfer onto the brake face or a radius out by .2 of a degree,insignificant measurements but in theory out of spec hence dagenham were more "tolerant" of such things.
What's hard for people outside of production to understand is that although you all work for one company,your often in competition with each other for products etc hence you get just as ruthless as if you were with an outside competitor and ford are the worst for it,they thrive on making you fearful for your jobs etc but I suppose it does keep you on your toes.
And they pay well,treat you good with sick/pensions etc.
The only differences with markets is the spec of emissions,trim etc there's no point in making two different standards of vehicle,that's a myth fella.
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Originally Posted by Darylc.
In the West we demand a better standard and spec than the poorer countries. Would be hard to sell a Mondeo Ghia fully specc'd in Uzbekistan for example.
Yeah the spec certainly differs but the quality control is the same for all markets.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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Thanks vaughant, im some kind of clear now. Darylc, we are not talking about Uzbekistan we are talking about Albania, lol. 3/4 of the cars here are last models of mercedes, bmw, an audi. I personally got my second focus ghia 1.6 petrol, personalized, with a direct booking from cologne factory, but myths are myths so i was just a little worried about the build quality.
Thank you guys and best wishes to all.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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No probs ermir.
Your bang on about the standard of motor out there,I'm sure I read a few years back that over 80% of the cars were Mercedes???
Not sure if that's a myth too!!!
I've been to the very factory your car was produced in back in 2001 ironically for a quality control issue with the rear drums on fiestas,they found one drum,yes one,with an inner bearing cup missing which meant a panic trip out there on an afternoon shift to check over 1500 drums for the defect!!!
We found.....zero!!!
After that I put a modification into the machine to prevent it from happening again,just a sensor put into the system to prove that the bearing had been pushed in then an alarm sounded and the machine stopped until the fault got rectified.
Never had a comeback again.
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Originally Posted by ermir
we are not talking about Uzbekistan we are talking about Albania, lol. 3/4 of the cars here are last models of mercedes, bmw, an audi.
so why do so many albanians try and come here claiming poverty and persecution back home?

not forgetting the ones who try and claim asylum pretending to be afghan or iraqi to evade thier pasts in albania.

its a well known problem here. Although its not just albania but many of the eastern european states.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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Yes Vaughant, more than rather 60 % of the cars are mercedes(and the latest models of them including many brabus and amg). In my town, when some one is going to buy a new car is used to say: what model of mercedes are u buying? they are sure that you going to buy a mercedes. But they used to buy only mercedes because the roads here were in very bad condition some years ago and the mercedes was the only car that supported them. Now all the country is connected with modern motorways and highways but the idea is still fixed. Thank you again for your patient and good explanations.
Psycho warren, i think that every country has this category of people and you can not identify the whole country by these little group of people. Ive been in london, woodgreen and i sow living conditions worst than here. But it is not said that hole england is like that. My be you meet the wrong people and may be this happened years before.
Anyway even if this is true i think you have to appreciate them because they are doing jobs that no Englishman accepts to do. I dont know if you are familiar with the literature but if you have the opportunity read please what Lord Byron wrote about us many years ago. LOL, i see we are far away from our theme now. I wish you guys all the best and enjoy your west production Fords.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ermir
Thanks vaughant, im some kind of clear now. Darylc, we are not talking about Uzbekistan we are talking about Albania, lol. 3/4 of the cars here are last models of mercedes, bmw, an audi. I personally got my second focus ghia 1.6 petrol, personalized, with a direct booking from cologne factory, but myths are myths so i was just a little worried about the build quality.
Thank you guys and best wishes to all.
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