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Old May 26, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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Default Rear brake dust guard, item/part number verification

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Could some in the know verifiy an item/part number for me, i've bought a set of rear dust guards off Ebay listed as "Sierra Cosworth RS 500/XR 4x4/Saphire Brake Disc Backing Plates N.O.S Genuine".

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I measured the rear discs before buying these and the are 272mm, now i don't have the original dust gurads as they feel apart. The part number on the ones a recieved is
85GB-2K317-AE.

This is the same number as the ones linked in the advert wrighting in RED.

Can someone tell me if these are cossie ones as the disc touches the edge.


Any info or photos of a pair fitted to see where they sit compaired to the actual disc



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Old May 26, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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I dont think these are Cossie ones, as they are domed.... All the 273mm cossie solid and vented back plates i have seen have been flat type

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I think you will find what you have are for xr's and abs disc'd std sierra's.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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4x4 ones finis numbers are 166 1472

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Old May 26, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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Now mate .. This IS the correct part no. For disc splash guards ... 2wd ones are domed.. 4wd are more flat..
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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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I found one of my old ones last night and it's 302mm, the new ones are 274mm. Fitted one of the new last night and it fits, looks like there maybe 2 different types/sizes :-/

Damocos, that pic is the 4x4 version, 2wd are non-vented discs.


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Old May 27, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Longshanks
Now mate .. This IS the correct part no. For disc splash guards ... 2wd ones are domed.. 4wd are more flat..
Oh, i see......lol only ever had 4x4 type and most 2wd's i seen they are usually rotted and long gone
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Old May 27, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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I bought a pair of 2wd ones thinking I might be able to modify to fit 4wd .. Oh no way too different .. I sold them it they were slightly smaller than the original 2wd ones the guy had .. I had checked these out with parts dept which is why I know the part no for 2wd . Finally got a decent pair of 4wd ones as mine disappeared when I touched them .. Big pile of orange dust
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Have the same issue, bought some off someone on here who said they're ones but when I compared them to my rusty ones their smaller but the part numbers on them match ones on eBay saying theyre 2wd ones......
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Old May 28, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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I bought a set and the part number is 85 but didn't compare sizes when i removed the old ones

I was under the impression that the part number being 85 would indicate that these wouldn't have been for any vehicle older than the 3dr or they would have been late 70's, very early 80's code but i could be wrong - mine will be on by weekend so i will soon know - failing that i may go down the carbon route
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Old May 28, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Toe Knee
Have the same issue, bought some off someone on here who said they're ones but when I compared them to my rusty ones their smaller but the part numbers on them match ones on eBay saying theyre 2wd ones......
Did you sell them , you bought them from me .. I bought them from rs360classics. Funny they were same size as my 4wd ones but different shape , they are correct part no. Was there a brake set up change in the 2wd ?? This seems to be a regular problem when you speak to people
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Nah mate keeping them for now, I had made a carbon copy of my original one but although the shape is good thee were a few dry patches. Supposed to be getting some decent carbon ones made but it's been the best part of 3 months now and not heard anything
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I've got a set made in carbon there great.
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Who made them?! I sent my original one I moulded off 3 months ago and was told I would have a set ages ago but not heard a word, just want my original one back do I can at least make two then just paint them as its a biax carbon rather than a twill weave but I got the cloth free so not complaining!!
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Old May 28, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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Jay off here made mine... I'll get some pics up tomorrow of them.
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Right tested mine today and guess what they are too small - measure 274mm which is too small for the rear discs on Cosworth models so these look like they came from a Granada as they ran a 253mm disc which makes them worthless really
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
Right tested mine today and guess what they are too small - measure 274mm which is too small for the rear discs on Cosworth models so these look like they came from a Granada as they ran a 253mm disc which makes them worthless really

Chris,Dave(Monster) makes these,hope this helps anyone out.

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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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What's part no. Brammer , surely if they from a grandad part no. Will be different .
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1374lee
Chris,Dave(Monster) makes these,hope this helps anyone out.

CheeRS.Lee.
Cheers for the info Lee, Dave is doing some work for me soon so i'll ask him

Originally Posted by Longshanks
What's part no. Brammer , surely if they from a grandad part no. Will be different .
Same as the first original poster posted
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Part no. The same can't be granddad ! That part no is 2wd cos .. According to ford
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