They work great - that is all

One of the best mods I've done to the car - can't believe how much cornering grip I have even on boost

Just took my brother in law out in it and he can't believe how fast the Cossie is and I'm not even running full boost. Think he is gonna sell his 997 2s soon and look for a turbo version lol

 

ran did you have to get your hubs machined to make the bolts sit flush to the hubs?
i trial fitted mine today and mine are fine.

 

My mate Who do e the conversion fitted it all, so will have to ask him.

They work a treat mate

 

hello ran can you tell me where did you buy the shims from as i am after some,cheers andy

 

Same here mate told you they made a big difference even by looking at my tyres wear I
Could even tell.

 

I'm after a set of shims for mine, are they simply bolt on?
Also can you only use them on the rear?

 

We use them on the rear Gary mate and yea they bolt on inbetween the hub carrier.

 

Had them on my 3DR years ago.........Brilliant little mod and SO much better

 

I was going to fit them until i read the arse end of this thread

http://forum.fordsierraclub.co.uk/vi...0475&start=125

 

Cant get on it Chris... What's it say mate..?... As I've had no probs with mine mate.

 

It says the camber shims not only change the camber but also affect toe, because the bolt holes are not parallel to the ground. The guy that fitted them and had the alignment checked went from 4 mm toe in to 17 mm toe in, while 3 mm is said to be optimal.

But how much the toe is effected depends on the ride height. The lower you go, the more parallel the shim gets to the ground. When they are fully parallel there is no change to toe when fitting the shims.

I have had the camber shims before, but I removed them again. I now fitted 2x 1mm thick standard shims to the top bolts. After that I had the tracking measured and put some thin shims from Mike R to get the toe setting correct. The shims for the toe need to be very thin, as the toe setting has to be much more accurate than the camber setting. So there is no way of doing it on sight.

 

I havent had the geometry setup yet but this car defo feels more planted than my 3dr ever did so I will be keeping them and getting it setup properly

 

I cannot see how fitting that shim in will affect the toe in and out as your not moving the hub that way your only moving the angle it sits against the hub that will affect camber!. Has anyone with these fitted had the tracking checked? and know what there rear wheel toe in is?

 

The hub (and therefore the shim) is not completely parallel to the ground. If it was parallel to the ground it would not affect toe.

Think of it when you turn the shim 90 degrees, no everything it would normally change in camber is now changed in toe. Having it at 5 or 10 degrees (what it probably is in reality) means both camber and toe are changed.

 

I'll have mine checked and let everyone know... But mine's a lot more planted now and feel a lot better and tyre wear looks like and is wearing like it uses the whole tyre now.

 

Depending on the ride height it doesn't have to effect the toe setting in a negative way. You just need to have it checked. There is also no reason why the toe would be perfect without the shims fitted. Lowering also affects the toe (giving more toe in). So if the camber is too negative I would fit them and have the toe checked. Then you can adjust the toe afterwards.

 

The hub may not be parallel to the ground but thats only going the affect the camber of the wheel! the only way they would affect toe in and out is if you put them in wronge so the thin end faced the front of the car moving the hub in such a way it would affect the toe in and out of the wheel lol. As matt rs says above he needs to put his on a supper tracker and see how his rear wheel toe is compared to the standard figures plus if they did fuck up the toe in of the rear wheels everyone who has fitted them would be saying dont do it as the car will scrub the outside edge of the tyres

 

Mines lowered 20mm on Ahmed bajoo springs.

 

ADE500 was active on that thread so he may see this and input

 

Hi, yep I have been active on there as you say, the thing is to have them checked as I think I said to Matt when he was getting his. They must as said here unless parralel to the ground have an effect on toe ( vary with ride height as standard ) so abit of machine work or mike r shims to get it bang on. There is alot using them and they are feeling the benefits in both grip and tyre wear.

 

actually found that if you use the black polybush or the oringal ford oem bush inthe arms and solid mouting the beam actually does a better job than these shims

 

Interesting Jay, i toyed with the idea of a solid beam mount but stayed with the powerflex item

 

I don't recall my shims I got from Mike R being that thick tbh, what make are the shims above, as said mine seems to work well with a even wear over the tyre width.

Steve

 

Here's mine fitted.....

 

There is a bit of confusion on the thread mike r sells shims that correct the toe the ones pictured above do the camber.

 

I thought so but wasn't 100% sure mate.