Guys, the brakes on my S2 feel utterly shocking coming from a 172 clio. I want to keep the standard rims so was thinking cossie 2wd 4pots. But are these much better than anything else I can fit from a newer ford? Or is the difference negligeble??

Is a bigger master cyliner/servo a good idea??

Please help before I plough it into the back of a transit at the lights, lol

(obv I will do a full fluid change)

 

Escos saph 4be granada scorpio calipers and 2wd discs is the usual OE upgrade

 

and get rid of the abs, just removed mine, yet to drive it yet though.

 

ABS has already been ditched dude. think I might need a new master cylinder as 2 of the ports have been crudely blocked off (plus new seals and stuff would be a bonus) so wondered if a newer/bigger servo would be a good idea.

So 4x4 cossie brakes are a LOT better than standard S2 stuff?

 

from memory s2 standard discs 260mm 2wd cossie discs 283mm

My cabrio stopped pretty well on the cossie brakes, looking forward to a go with no abs next.

 

phil looking at your picture in the other thread it just looks like the resovoir thats had the returns blocked, how many metal brake pipes come out of the master cylinder and where do they run to?

 

In short.... I havent a clue, lol. will have to have a look, but I think there is only 2. Its deffo not got the bulky ABS unit above the driveshafts tho

 

4x4 front discs= 278MM, 2WD= 283MM.

There is alot of difference between 2WD braking and 4x4, the former is far superior!

Martin

 

The sticky at the top of the room details what I believe to be the easiest upgrade to S2 brakes retaining the original wheels.

Front: Cossie 4x4 callipers with Cossie 2WD 283mm disks.

Rear: Cossie 2WD rear disks with RS2000/XR4x4 callipers.

Both very easy upgrades and you can keep the original rims without taking any grinding tools to the bodies of the callipers.

Take a look at the sticky!

Lee

 

Yep that setup is cracking, I used oe discs with mintex 1155 pads all round and had very good brakes indeed

 

OK cool. Wasnt sure if the 4pots would be massively better or not, but I suppose the 283mm dics will be better than the 260mm on the S2, lol

Better start amassing more parts then, lol

 

The 4 pots would be better. But as I said, without having anything machined or taking a grinder to anything the 4x4 caliper and 2wd disk route is spot on.

There is a world of diference between the RST setup and the Cossie Setup. I warped a few sets of 260mm disks and found they faded quickly on a spirited drive.

For my Cossie setup I used Ferodo DS Performance (Previously called DS 2000) pads and oe spec disks all round. No ABS, no bias or load prop valves, it's in my XR3i cabrio so it has an XR3i master cylinder with 4 outputs. It brakes very well and more importantly, evenly.

Lee

 

Quick question, does the mk3 mondeo upgrade fit under standard rims?

 

From what i can make out No cause they run 300mm discs. I imagine 16's will just

 

Yes they will fit under 15's. Cheaper then the cossie calipers too.

 

Is that a 100% yes?? I had them on the fiesta st and try we're an awesome conversion! Last thing I wanna do is drill hubs to find I need 16" wheels haha!

 

I was just going to say - mk3 mondeo calipers and 300m discs, apparently they do go under Cosworth 15' lattice alloys but not the sharktooth 4x4 alloys, something to do with the dish??

I am only regurgitating what I have read on another site, I am looking to do this on my 8v Saff.

 

Why are you drilling hubs?? I've probably missed something?

 

Serious??

Are these readily available??

 

Arrrggghh they are 5 stud

 

No no, use mk3 mondeo calipers, 20 a side off mk3 mondeo spares and focus ST 170 discs, no 'cosworth tax' and cheap pads! I had a set of Brembo pads which were awesome on my fiesta! I just need to know if they fit under 15" RS turbo dog legs!

 

I think last time this got asked the consensus was that the callipers needed a skim to fit under standard RST wheels. With the cossie 280mm setup the calliper is about 5-8mm from the rim

Lee

 

Ah I see! Ok, is there enough beef on them to do so?

 

I'd have thought so. There's no internals to the parts that need reducing.

Lee

 

Might go for the gamble, should have kept my 16" mondy rims...