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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Currently shopping for my Old man for something to replace his T5.
Budget is ~£30k. Few grand over isn't a problem.

  • Needs to be a saloon/Estate
  • Needs to be BRAND NEW
  • Needs to be quickish 0-60 in >8.5s with pleanty of torque
  • Would LOVE four wheel drive but this is hard to find so not a neccesity.
  • Would like an Auto, manual isn't an issue.
  • Petrol or Diesel isn't an issue.
  • Would like full leather
  • Would like 5/6 Cylinders although not a neccesity.
Currently looking at...


BMW 520d SE with a Sport Autobox (Abit 'Old Man')

BMW 325d SE Touring (E90) with a Sport Autobox (Abit dated)

New BMW 320d Sport with the Sport Autobox (Would love a 328i Sport but not availible )

Ford Mondeo TXS 2.0 Ecoboost 240 (£30k on a Mondeo? Hmmm)

Vauxhall Insignia VXR (A little pricey for what they are)




But looking about there isn't much availble.


Anyone else have any good ideas?
Nothing out there really seems to fit the bill Except the E90 325d.


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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bailes1992
Needs to be BRAND NEW
Never understood this Throwing away money...

I quite like the 320d.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by St3V3_C
Never understood this Throwing away money...

I quite like the 320d.
It's a lease car.
He does anywhere between 50 and 300 miles a day so it makes sense to him.
It's hassle free motoring. If it goes wrong he gets a new car on the doorstep in a few hours while his cars being fixed etc.
Tyres, tax, servicing it all taken cared for etc.

He likes the new 320d too, spec it in grey with red leather with some 18" Anthracite wheels and it looks amazing! But £33k is quite abit of money!
Although the lease company will get a sizeable discount with that.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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do the same with my company car, but we can have used cars. but they can't be more then 5years old at the end.

used to be ald think we're using someone else now
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
do the same with my company car, but we can have used cars. but they can't be more then 5years old at the end.
I think he may be allowed 12 month old cars, but he hasen't really looked into it. Much nicer to have a brand new car I think.
He has a 4 year lease with Zenith Provecta? He gets it through his company.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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chrysler 300c, a LOT of car for the money 300CRD, absolutley flying with merc running gear is bulletproof and very old man like
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cossie Sean
chrysler 300c, a LOT of car for the money 300CRD, absolutley flying with merc running gear is bulletproof and very old man like
They don't make them any more, and the new one isn't out till summer
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Im going with the skoda Vrs had a go in one the other day very good and you can have an estate , worth a look very competent car Id say.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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What are Merc's like these days?

Just having a look at a C250 CDi Sport Saloon in Red with Cream leather which is about the same price as the BMW 320d Sport. Both around £33,500 but the Beemer has an Autobox specced.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Best 5 series you can stretch to.

Only other car I'd consider would be a Subaru Legacy Outback. The 3.6 is £37k new though, but would give you your 4wd.

I'd go for the BMW for a new car, but would give the Legacy more consideration if I was looking for a car up to 2 years old.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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Just having a look at Skodas and the Superb 3.6 V6 4x4 is very nice but a bit old man. Another car to put on the list anyway
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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i second the Subaru, drove them before they were released when i was at Nissan bringing them on/off the ships at the port. Stunning motors and sound like 911`s!

Good call mike!
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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Hang on for the 2013 Mondeo......it's one sexy beast!
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Mondeo for me, far better value for money than the rest mentioned imo, the same size as a 5 series as well, and loaded with gadgets if you get a decent model.

My pick would be Titanium X, this is basically the MK3 ST replacement, has the same 5 pot engine which your Dad currently has as well.

As said it may be worth waiting for the MK5 (If you were interested), unless you want something this year?

Think it pretty much meets all of your criteria, bar 4WD, think it's full leather as well?

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Audi A6 Avante 3.0 TDI Quattro Le Mans gets my vote but would have to be a few months old to get it for under £30k

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Mondeo for me, far better value for money than the rest mentioned imo, the same size as a 5 series as well, and loaded with gadgets if you get a decent model.

My pick would be Titanium X, this is basically the MK3 ST replacement, has the same 5 pot engine which your Dad currently has as well.

As said it may be worth waiting for the MK5 (If you were interested), unless you want something this year?

Think it pretty much meets all of your criteria, bar 4WD, think it's full leather as well?

Martin
TXS Ecoboost is the replacement for the 5pot. They don't make the 5pot anymore cause of Euro 5 regs
It's a 2.0 4 cyl Turbo with 240bhp.
Also got half leather but that aint an issue.
We were looking at the 5pot Titanium when he got his current T5 which was a replacement for a Mondeo ST220.

He just think £30k is allot of money on a Mondeo.
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Forgot about that, of course, thats the same engine as the new Focus ST then.

I suppose, but that how much are other cars you are looking at?

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Forgot about that, of course, thats the same engine as the new Focus ST then.

I suppose, but that how much are other cars you are looking at?

Martin
Currently top of the list is the new BMW 320d Saloon in sport trim in either Grey with Red leather or Red with black leather, sports automatic gearbox, 18" Anthracite wheels and Folding mirrors. Thats £33.5k but the lease company don't pay tax when they buy the car which makes it £28k and then they get a discount ontop of that.

My Dad's current T5 was nearly £29k specced up and the lease company got it for £23k.

Second on the list is a BMW (E90) 325d SE Touring in dark red with cream leather, autobox and folding mirrors which comes in around £34k.

This looks stunning though!



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bmw passat or audi for that money would be my choice
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 05:35 PM
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Wait for the new Focus ST Estate... buy that.


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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Can't wait, it has to be changed in April as his current lease is up.
Otherwise thats exactley what he wants!
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 05:44 PM
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Hmmm well realistically, I'd make a list of possibles... then find out what cars are available with a short turnaround (from ordering to delivery) before wanking off over the online car builders mate. No point getting all geared up for a tidy spec BMW 3-series then finding out that because it's a new model, it's got a delivery date 18 weeks down the line.

Volvo V70 D5 R-Design, think they're <35k with a few options... with a haggle, it might be down around ~30k.


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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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Apologies for bringing this back up but I seem to have found a car that meets every single requirement... and it seems to be too good to be true?

Skoda Superb Elegance 3.6FSi 4x4


Saloon is £29,459 and Estate is about £1,200 more.

Just like peoples opinions/experiences just to advise my old man a little bit.
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