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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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What are people's thoughts on the way the cable is when on full throttle ?











Not very happy with the way it is

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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One word.... Airtec..!
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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One word.... Airtec..!
But the Airtec bracket is for a 2wd and 4x4 TB, not a ST Escos TB

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Dont know about TB's etc but that does not look very good?
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
But the Airtec bracket is for a 2wd and 4x4 TB, not a ST Escos TB

Steve


Yes true mate... Doesn't look to clever tho mate...
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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same as mine as i said the cable runs at to much of an angle the square needs to be up higher im going to get mine modded i think as i dont wont my cable snapping! it still gets the full range of movement and dosent feel tight but im still not that happy with it iver!

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
same as mine as i said the cable runs at to much of an angle the square needs to be up higher im going to get mine modded i think as i dont wont my cable snapping! it still gets the full range of movement and dosent feel tight but im still not that happy with it iver!
But we shouldn't have too

As said it does work, and smoothly but im also worried about the cable snapping.

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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Not sure need another pic!
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Dont look a very fIt good for the money they are
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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i no we shouldent but after the time it took to even get that one lol id rather just take mine to andy robinsons and get it done the same day! if we had stainless wire at work id do it my self
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I know a man that can as well, it will just make it a bloody expensive bracket

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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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Anybody else got any thoughts on the way it operates or am i just being picky ?

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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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Mine fitted perfectly no problems whatsoever - ill dig some pictures out
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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Mine fitted perfectly no problems whatsoever - ill dig some pictures out
Are you using a ST Escos TB ?

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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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yeah i found a brand spanker 2wd tb so im using that , ive since binned the hart inlet and now using a ST escos inlet with the 2wd TB.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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All i did was move the P/S slightly reservoir towards the front of the car . no one even noticed !!
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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thats a different throttle body and different cable mount!
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rsmat
One word.... Airtec..!

Funny that because that's a hart inlet. What make is the bracket? Not airtec
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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nah its a proper hart bracket ,

This bracket was designed with the hart inlet for the hart inlet , hence why it fits properly.

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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
Funny that because that's a hart inlet. What make is the bracket? Not airtec
what on earth has who cast the manifold got to do with a throttle cable bracket made by a 3rd party?
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
what on earth has who cast the manifold got to do with a throttle cable bracket made by a 3rd party?


I'm stating that it's not a Airtec inlet or bracket as rsmat stated. And I asked who made the bracket
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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dunno mate , i got mine from the caster! the proper kit should look like this.........





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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
I'm stating that it's not a Airtec inlet or bracket as rsmat stated. And I asked who made the bracket
There made by a fabricator that blue sprint use who i think is near too there work shop mate there is only a problem as not many have been used with the small turbo throttle body when i ordered my manifold only one other had been ordered that way by m.a.d and they sorted the cable bracket them selfs
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by focus 4x4
yeah i found a brand spanker 2wd tb so im using that , ive since binned the hart inlet and now using a ST escos inlet with the 2wd TB.
What`s the reason for you not using the hart one?
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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Ronnie I think Mat was implying that the Airtec Plenum wouldnt have this issue , at least thats how Ive read it
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Originally Posted by grcossie
What`s the reason for you not using the hart one?
Not reponsive enough for my engine spec.
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Originally Posted by focus 4x4
Not reponsive enough for my engine spec.
Which is ?

And what do you use it for ?

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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by focus 4x4
Not reponsive enough for my engine spec.
but its meant to be the best flowing inlet out there
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
Funny that because that's a hart inlet. What make is the bracket? Not airtec


I know... It's a standing joke with Steve... Hence should have had a airtec...

I know the brackets 3rd party as well ..
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i cant see what the fuss is about steve



your car aint seen that much throttle ever !!!!!


lol
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
but its meant to be the best flowing inlet out there
It probably is the best when youre seeing figures of 650hp plus , but the hart inlet isnt as responsive as a st esc inlet for 500hp applications , hence why i swapped .
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Originally Posted by focus 4x4
It probably is the best when youre seeing figures of 650hp plus , but the hart inlet isnt as responsive as a st esc inlet for 500hp applications , hence why i swapped .
not what i was told thats why i sold my st esc one and got a hart one
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i got told the hart plenum was fully approved by chuck norris



and if chuck norris approves it then you know its the truth !!!

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Originally Posted by -beefy-
i got told the hart plenum was fully approved by chuck norris



and if chuck norris approves it then you know its the truth !!!

cool well chufed with that i may even have has autograph air brushed on now i no that!
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
but its meant to be the best flowing inlet out there
It probably is the best when youre seeing figures of 650hp plus , but the hart inlet isnt as responsive as a st esc inlet for 500hp applications , hence why i swapped .

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There is a difference between flow capability and throttle response. Just because a plenum has the volume to not become a restriction in producing power it does not mean that the throttle response is not compromised. Swedish plenums used to be noticeably less responsive at lower engine speeds but would make more power at the top end of the rev range. There are very few modifications that can be performed to engines that will provide a global gain without there being some form of compromise.
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
i cant see what the fuss is about steve



your car aint seen that much throttle ever !!!!!


lol
I have to think of my MPG

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Originally Posted by Deano
Ronnie I think Mat was implying that the Airtec Plenum wouldnt have this issue , at least thats how Ive read it
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I know... It's a standing joke with Steve... Hence should have had a airtec...

I know the brackets 3rd party as well ..
my apologies
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Originally Posted by focus 4x4
It probably is the best when youre seeing figures of 650hp plus , but the hart inlet isnt as responsive as a st esc inlet for 500hp applications , hence why i swapped .
I guess everyone has different opinions mine has a 500bhp set up and before i ordered mine i asked the person who maps mine if i would benefit from a hart over my st esc inlet and was told yes
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In the booklet that comes with a Hart, a dyno seesion showed a engine that made 378bhp on a std TB and std inlet made 411bhp on the Hart but lost power upto 4500rpm

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