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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Bought a car from from a dealer in birmingham yesterday,mrs been driving it around,said a knocking coming from front end(suspension).Anyhow jacked it up,did the usual moving and proding,nsf wheel bearing.loads of movement,can't find the knocking though,although i just driven it and can hear it.
Phoned the dealer,got all moody on me(to be honest so did i).Said" i sold it as seen".He said drive it back and will have a look.You must of driven in into a pothole.Anyway gonna take it for an mot tomorrow,what happends if it fails ?
Was an 06 fiesta by the way

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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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"Sold as Seen" means exactly fuck all!

"Sale of Good Act 1982 - Goods must be fit for the purpose for which they are sold." This goes for second hand items as well as new. Get the dealer to sort it to your satisfaction or get it sorted and drag their sorry arses to the small claims court

Mind you before ripping the guy a new arsehole you really need to give them the opertunity to rectify the problem(s)

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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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It will fail on a fucked wheel bearing
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by oranoco
"sold as seen" means exactly fuck all!

"sale of good act 1982 - goods must be fit for the purpose for which they are sold." this goes for second hand items as well as new. Get the dealer to sort it to your satisfaction or get it sorted and drag their sorry arses to the small claims court
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also tell him your taking it for a mot and if it has recently been mot mention your taking it to vosa
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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just txted him,can't speak to him again,i'm fuming,if it fails will phone trading standards,I really don't wanna be driving it back up there.mot runs out in april.I know won't cost much to fix,but,to me,its a pure piss take,i should have recorded his attitude on the phone.Reckoned he told my missis,was sold as seen when she origionally phoned him up.He said nothing of the sort.When she disputed it,he called her a liar !
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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if you didn't hear the noise on the test drive, she may well have hit a pot hole or something.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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possibly,but a wheel bearing
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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What does it say on the paperwork you got with the car? Unless it specifies "in need of a new wheelbearing and unknown knock" whether he likes it or not it's down to him to sort.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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nothing on paperwork,just details of car and price.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Never had a front wheel drive car have play in a wheel bearing before. It must be well shagged for that and i dont think a pot hole would cause that sort of damage. Hope you get it sorted at the dealers expense. I hate people passing of cars like this and making money on it. Good Luck matey.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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In that case it blatantly falls on the dealers head. Keep calm and know what you want.

1. Make it clear that you are expecting them to rectify the defect at their expense.
2. Point out that there is nothing on any of your paperwork to support the claim of sold as seen.
3. Point out that "sold as seen" carries no legal weight and the Sale of Goods Act 1982 states that goods muct be fit for the purpose for which they are sold and I beleive it also mentions that they should be of servicable quality.
4. If they don't agree to rectify the fault you will file a complaint with trading standards, have the repair done and take them to the small claims court to recover the sum and the associated costs of the temprorary vehicle whilst yours is being repaired.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by andi-p
Never had a front wheel drive car have play in a wheel bearing before. It must be well shagged for that and i dont think a pot hole would cause that sort of damage. Hope you get it sorted at the dealers expense. I hate people passing of cars like this and making money on it. Good Luck matey.
cant have worked on many cars then pal ive seen hundreds with play in the front bearings in the 15 or so years ive been a mechanic
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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If is a dealer he has to at least give you 3 month warranty and NOTHING Is able be sold in terms sold as seen ! Means jack
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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All wheel bearings that i have come across have been noisey and never had one with play in. The only ones I have had play on are on non drive axle.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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I went to a Volvo the other year and looked at some trade in cars they had for sale, was told 'no warranty, the car is as is it' not even a test drive!

Not sure how that works, in the past I always thought only trade could by 'sold as seen' from trade?
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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the sale of goods act is a bit of a grey area really in regards to second hand/used items.
if the paperwork states sold as seen and no warranty then you will probably get nowhere.
on a test drive you should have been aware of a wheel bearing problem.
our 206 showed up a wheel bearing problem on the test drive and they sorted that before we bought it.
the best thing to do is get on good terms with the dealership, i believe there is a cooling off period for any items bought as long as they are returned in the same condition they were bought. proving the damage hasn't been done since could be a problem though.
just my 2p's worth.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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what sort of dealer sells a car with just 3 months ticket on it
whenever i buy a car from a dealer if it has less than 9 months mot then i will have a new one done before i buy it
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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lad i worked with bought a rover for Ł1400 off a dealer,2 days after buying it engine blew up,he called the dealer and they said sold as seen,so he went citezens advice for help and was told any car sold by a trader/dealer over Ł1000 automatically has 3 months warenty,so he went back to dealer and they HAD to sort it
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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As said above. Unless the receipt states sold as scrap then you have 3 months warranty by law. I sold a car for a customer a few months ago, wrote on the receipt, "sold on behalf of another party, no warranty given" long story short, car went wrong , I had to put it right. Lesson learnt!
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