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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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don't want to start a big arguement regarding mfi vs efi, i just want to know from those using mfi on trackdays, is it reliable? obviously for this assume all sensors are working correctly. will the heat and constant high revs cause issues for sensors and the metering head?
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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the problem with it is finding some who knows how to set it up.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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plus its shit.


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Dont get carried away and hit the limiter too hard.. it'll bend a rod!
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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No problems here and bounce it off the limiter all day long!
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Mine took plenty of stick at ring on mfi and had no dramas. (Setup by NMS) .
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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thats what i wanted to hear, i want to take the car on track, so far i've been using my integra type r which take abuse all day long, but i want to use the escort instead now and in time i would like to cage it and carbon roof etc, but i don't want to spend €1000s right now on an efi conversion. i want to get the best components when i'm doing it, just not now?
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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doesn't cost that much to convert to efi. depends on much you can do
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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tracked my s1,put it on the strip an santa pod,sprint days never had any problems with mfi

rs coombe is soon come and watch mate
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
doesn't cost that much to convert to efi. depends on much you can do
the work i can do, its just components are thin on the ground in ireland, so getting parts means getting them from england and my mfi is working fine, i was just wondering if others were getting on fine running thier rs turbos as ford intended on track.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Took mine on track when standard and it took the abuse all day was all over type r's.

As long as it is setup properly before hand then you should not have a problem just keep an eye on oil and water temps if you can.

You should not need to rev all the way to the limiter anyway as its a turbo car you should be using the torque not the revs.
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Originally Posted by StephenC
Mine took plenty of stick at ring on mfi and had no dramas. (Setup by NMS) .
maybe it was just mateys ol S1 that didnt like it much then lol
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i have wideband lambda and oil pressure guage (just need to finish wiring) so it should be good to go
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Oil temp is handy if your modified and it's a hot day
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Originally Posted by kermitt
Oil temp is handy if your modified and it's a hot day
only 10psi at the moment, about the oil temp, are the turbo coolers a good investment?
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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Oil pressure gauge is handy cos it should identify low pressure and a worn engine. You can get a different pressure switch which illuminates the low pressure warning light on the dash at a higher pressure. The idea is it alerts u so you have enough time to switch the engine off and save it. Oil temp is good as you should not thrash it when too low and the pressure is too high. Similarly when the temp gets too high the pressure drops so if it goes above 120 C I would slow down. Turbo cooler is like a radiator for the turbo as S2 turbos are water fed for cooling. I have one fitted but not sure it makes that much difference.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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Similarly when the temp gets too high the pressure drops so if it goes above 120 C I would slow down. Turbo cooler is like a radiator for the turbo as S2 turbos are water fed for cooling. I have one fitted but not sure it makes that much difference.
i was just wondering was there any need for it, even on the hottest days here i've never had an issue with water temp, only issue was with heat soak on my old interwarmer, put an airtec fmic in there recently so hoping that issue is sorted. i usually bring the car in few a cool down after 15-20 miles on the track
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Is that hottest days on track or driving about the country cos your car will get alot hotter thrashing round a track. Could also depend on the track layout i.e long straights at full throttle or short straights spent accelerating.

Should not be a big problem though as long as you are not running massive boost to create the heat but if you are still on Mfi I would not expect it to be much above 15psi anyway.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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Had no trouble from mine,ran great for years on MFI.Set up by MA Devolopments.Engine cooling will be a problem at Mondello if youre making horsepower.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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mondello is pretty torturous alright, plenty of hard accelerating from second gear! won't go beyond around 180bhp until i have honed my track driving more!
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finally had it on track, did 110 miles on track on friday, i think my timing is slightly retarded, it was running out of puff at 5k rpm, still doing 2:15 around the international circuit with a passenger, and probably only 130bhp. MFI was faultless though, will work on getting suspension sorted before i up the power

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Good man was this the otd?
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by simonmcf
Good man was this the otd?
yup, last friday, very happy with how it went, will work on geometry and driving ability to get down towards 2.10 lap times, then i'll work on weight and power...
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Good man, what tires ya running ? Brakes? Suspension? You on Rsownersireland?
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by simonmcf
Good man, what tires ya running ? Brakes? Suspension? You on Rsownersireland?
not on RSownerireland, i'm on octane and here though!

tyres are toyo R888, Willwood 4 pots and willwood track pads, ferodo dot5.1 fluid, standard rear brakes (obviously serviced carefully) goodridge hoses.
spax adjustable damping suspension

need new tires after friday though
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trying to post a video and failed!

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Car looks sweet too mate
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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really really short vid a buddy posted on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj9TW...ideo&lr=1&ob=0
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Looks good, can't wait to get back on track again in mine...!
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