max HP at 1.0 bar?
Hi all,
with a limit of 1.0 bar and sticking with realistic RPM constraints (8500-9000)
whats the maximum hp the YB head will flow when very heavily ported?
cheers
JOSH
with a limit of 1.0 bar and sticking with realistic RPM constraints (8500-9000)
whats the maximum hp the YB head will flow when very heavily ported?
cheers
JOSH
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Well, the best possible solution would be of minimal back pressure, so prehaps a superchager would produce best results if only 1 bar of boost is the constraint.
Martins 500 made 400 bhp at 1.1 bar
Martins 500 made 400 bhp at 1.1 bar
Rod saw 500 @ 1 bar IIRC
I reckon you could do nearer to 600 though at 9Krpm with a turbo specifically designed for this obscure question and a 11:1 compression engine on 300 degree cams and race fuel.
I reckon you could do nearer to 600 though at 9Krpm with a turbo specifically designed for this obscure question and a 11:1 compression engine on 300 degree cams and race fuel.
500 at 1 bar though
wonder where sheady gets his porting done???
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why? why would you not just run enough boost for the desired power output? 12,15,20 psi, just whatever it takes. Ideally you want as big a power band as posible, and so may have to use a smaller turbo but run more boost (quicker spool, but more of a top end restriction)
2 bar is where its at for GT series turbos IMHO
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Its not all about max bhp, its about usable bhp. 400bhp with a big turbo at 1 bar is not as good as 400bhp with a decent sized turbo at 2 bar, they both peak at similar revs (as that is down to the engine VE) but the one with the smaller tubo will make more power from lower down and for longer.
my understanding was that most turbos are efficient at low rpm's and decrease as speed and pressure ratio's increase, as below

its peak efficiency island starts at 0.5 bar of boost, granted its less efficient below that as the turbo's low rpm make's it less able to hold a compressed charge efficiently.
as the case is the same in these...
T66

GT35

2 bar on the GT3582 above drops its efficiency by 2% under the efficiency at 1 bar, not a great deal i agree but its still decreasing.
chaffe---Its not all about max bhp, its about usable bhp. 400bhp with a big turbo at 1 bar is not as good as 400bhp with a decent sized turbo at 2 bar, they both peak at similar revs (as that is down to the engine VE) but the one with the smaller tubo will make more power from lower down and for longer.
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I agree that choosing a larger turbo to reduce boost for a givern power is not always correct, what im suggesting is that the rest of the engine should be made as efficient as possible with porting to the head etc etc, so that the same turbo as before produces the same power just at a lower point in the graph to before..
correct me if im way of the mark?
correct me if im way of the mark?
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