breather set ups?
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what exactly is needed? where from, and how much?
the car is currently circa 300 bhp, 2wd, greens, 3bar, 4wd cooler. But i will probably look at going t34, 500 style cooler etc over winter.
so i take it an uprated breather is needed? will it reduce oil consumption much?
does anyone do an off the shelf, plug and play type kit? got one for sale second hand?
cheers.
the car is currently circa 300 bhp, 2wd, greens, 3bar, 4wd cooler. But i will probably look at going t34, 500 style cooler etc over winter.
so i take it an uprated breather is needed? will it reduce oil consumption much?
does anyone do an off the shelf, plug and play type kit? got one for sale second hand?
cheers.
it all depends on what you want to spend
GGR do a good set up
thiers wil breath from bothsides of the engine ...another one will return to the sump below oil level ...and another one will vent to air
for the power your aming this will be good enough and good for 500+
GGR do a good set up
thiers wil breath from bothsides of the engine ...another one will return to the sump below oil level ...and another one will vent to air
for the power your aming this will be good enough and good for 500+
i've seen some breather setups that dont seam to vent to atmosphere or the intake and just return to sump which seams madness to me as without a vent surely the engine will just pressurise????
personally for my focus as its only 2l n/a i got a cheap 1l catch tank that was unbaffled and only had 2 ports, made my own baffle (to increase inner surface area to aid oil condensation therefore removing the oil vapour) , connected cam cover to one port, crank case to the other (removing the pcv valve as venting to atmosphere. actually i removed the guts of the valve to use the case as a connector) and the other side of the baffle drilled a hole in the top to accept a pipe connector and breather filter. i could have it return to sump if i wanted but dont want to faff with that so i'm keeping my eye on the site tube. this setup works perfectly for me and has cured my slightly eratic idle that was caused by the fucked pcv valve that loads of people seem to overlook with idle problems.
graham, i'd try a setup like that but use a big breather filter with a large diameter inlet otherwise it could possibly pressurise the engine to some extent if it cant evacuate the excess pressure fast enough. however, on a cossy i'd buy a better catch tank.
oh and i figured out how i was gonna do mine from burton powers little description about breather systems, http://burtonpower.co.uk/technical_1...er_system.aspx
hope this helps mate and enjoy the cossy...i'm soooo fucking jealous!!
personally for my focus as its only 2l n/a i got a cheap 1l catch tank that was unbaffled and only had 2 ports, made my own baffle (to increase inner surface area to aid oil condensation therefore removing the oil vapour) , connected cam cover to one port, crank case to the other (removing the pcv valve as venting to atmosphere. actually i removed the guts of the valve to use the case as a connector) and the other side of the baffle drilled a hole in the top to accept a pipe connector and breather filter. i could have it return to sump if i wanted but dont want to faff with that so i'm keeping my eye on the site tube. this setup works perfectly for me and has cured my slightly eratic idle that was caused by the fucked pcv valve that loads of people seem to overlook with idle problems.
graham, i'd try a setup like that but use a big breather filter with a large diameter inlet otherwise it could possibly pressurise the engine to some extent if it cant evacuate the excess pressure fast enough. however, on a cossy i'd buy a better catch tank.
oh and i figured out how i was gonna do mine from burton powers little description about breather systems, http://burtonpower.co.uk/technical_1...er_system.aspx
hope this helps mate and enjoy the cossy...i'm soooo fucking jealous!!
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money wise, as little as possible lol.
Phil, should of thought to ask you, remember you showing me your setup at fordfair, will have a read of the burton writeup in a min, i did read stus technical artical on the MSD site last night.
i've not sean stu's will have a look at that myself.
my setup isnt beefy enough for a turbo'd motor unfortunately as the breather filter is too small and the gutted pcv valve acts as a restrictor but for my engine it works brilliantly.
if i were to do it again on another car i'd remove the oil seperator thingy thats on the front of my block and replace it with a tube and baffled plate and make my own baffled catch tank (from stainless so i can weld it easily), would be the cheapest way of doing it i recon.
my setup isnt beefy enough for a turbo'd motor unfortunately as the breather filter is too small and the gutted pcv valve acts as a restrictor but for my engine it works brilliantly.
if i were to do it again on another car i'd remove the oil seperator thingy thats on the front of my block and replace it with a tube and baffled plate and make my own baffled catch tank (from stainless so i can weld it easily), would be the cheapest way of doing it i recon.
Can make a complete kit for around Ł30.
You can use anything as a receiver of the pressure, vent the top of this to atmosphere, and the lowest point as the return, fill the canister/receiver with SCRUB BUDS, these are SS but packed well in there have a huge surface area to allow oil mist to get caught up and drop down to the return pipe.
The canister/receiver can be anything you want a box a tube etc and weld on the pipe stubs, can even leave something with a removable lid so you can clean it out if wanted.
Look on www.ratsport.co.uk for some good cheap bits as well.
tabetha
You can use anything as a receiver of the pressure, vent the top of this to atmosphere, and the lowest point as the return, fill the canister/receiver with SCRUB BUDS, these are SS but packed well in there have a huge surface area to allow oil mist to get caught up and drop down to the return pipe.
The canister/receiver can be anything you want a box a tube etc and weld on the pipe stubs, can even leave something with a removable lid so you can clean it out if wanted.
Look on www.ratsport.co.uk for some good cheap bits as well.
tabetha
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