I need to buy a chip for my saph to run with a T34 .48, greens, 500 cooler, and standard engine.

Was about to go for an MSD but thought i'd ask opinions on here first

Do you think this is my best bet??

Cheers

 

Live mapping will always produce the best result.

 

MSD Chip will be fine yes, but as said above, if your budget will allow then you're best bet is for a Live Map..

 

My budget is a little too small for a live map i think, how much are we talking?

 

About Ł450-500 fella....

 

An off the shelf chip from MSD will be fine for that spec but deffo sell your greens and buy a set of Siemens off them they are so much better and deffo money well spent.

 

MSD boys know their stuff I had Ahmed Bayjoo baby board and chip in mine worked well


Luciano

 

Just what i was gonna type.

 

You can see with Collins performance or NMS for a chip

 

Get a scotty one mate 100 quid job done

 

i was thinking about a scotty special but i dont think they have limiters and i can see myself getting carried away at some point!!

Are siemens that much better than green then??

 

Siemens are a newer Injector with a better Spray pattern... (supposedly)

 

Are there any other mods required to make them fit or do they just plug straight in??

You lot have got me thinking now....

 

ok, just looked on the MSD site and its 250 notes for the chip and i'll prob be the same for the injectors so thats out, im supposed to be saving for a wedding!!

The greens are gonna have to stay for now.

Im sure it will still seem good compared to my fooked T3 and PTS chipped ecu!!

 

The greens are perfectly fine as said the Siemens are "Supposted" to have a better spray pattern, if buying new it makes sense seen as you can't buy Bosch anymore.

You need injectors a -31 actuator and 3 BAR Map sensor and a chip to suit this spec.

For this spec I really woulden't be considering a live map although obviously it's better.

Martin

 

Sorry, i didn't say i am already running a -31 and 3 bar. It was just a basic T3 stage 3 setup done at PTS just before i got the car.

The turbo has now started to smoke like an old mans pipe so im getting a T34

Think im going to just get the MSD

 

You wont go wrong with MSD m8,what t34 you getting,.63 housing ?

 

Its gonna need a setup i,d imagine, personaly i,d book your car in for a setup/chip instalation at msd , not a live map but as close as your gonna get , knowing she,s all good too

 

my car runs a msd chip on greens, it is fantastic. no complaints at all, just get ya local garage 2 set co. plugs str8 in. happy days

 

Just make sure you get the fueling etc checked my Crocodile..

Have you re-wired your fuel pump too?? if not get that done also..

 

It has a .48 housing on it,

I would have a setup done at MSD but their at the opposite end of the country to me!!

Was gonna get it put together and then take it to Torques for a set up.

Fuel pump will be rewired when this goes on, i understand the standard pump is ok on greens???

Just thougth, i'll need a T34 boost hose too...

 

non closed loop L8-L6 chip for greens and T34.48 is Ł150 mate, and we can modify the software to suit any engine mods you have done.

if you give me a ring i'll sort a deal on the postage aswell.

The greens are ok, and will run fine on a standard pump as long its in tip top condition,and has a good clean filter with a good supply voltage.

The good thing about the 55lb conversion is that you can run the turbos flat out, so from a safety point of view its much better as you could run it with no wastegate on and not melt it lol, where as the greens have to have the boost capped.

 

The standard pump that is a Bosch 941 is fine. The chip is DIY anyway it's just wise to have AFR etc checked and CO set after.

Martin

 

NMS

 

Thanks james, i'll give you a bell about this.

The siemens setup does sound good but i just dont have the cash for that at the moment!!

 

How high the boost is set usually with MSD chip for T34 .48 & greens?

 

42psi peak

 

Totally dependent on what the author has wrote the chip for, so you will need to check, there isn't a generic figure really you could trust!

Martin

 

29 psi on mine with that very same set-up

 

Any idea of what power that is, I am guessing circa 360~370HP?

Martin

 

Should all come in the chip instructions, but usually 25-26psi tailing as rpm climb,

you cant run much more, and i advise anyone doing so to have a full load fuelling check, as the turbocharger will outflow the little 803s at high rpm which is why we advise the use of 55s on the T34.

 

Ok, im asking because currently I have stock fuel pump and green injectors in the car. Im currently running 19 psi boost on T3 and im gonna order a new chip from you at some point as anyway im in need of lambda control (and some extra power... ). You also seem to sell chips for T3 which run 25 psi, so its either one of them for me when I buy new chip...

 

read this carefully
I shall reiterate what James has said the t34 can out flow your greens
my advice is not to waste your money on a greens chip
get 55 lbs siemens and an appropriate map 55;bs siemens have been discontinued I have limited stocks if you need some
you can just sell on your old greens and chip
and don't get married you'll be poor for ever and your cossie will have to go according to her

 

Okay, then I should get 55s when I upgrade turbo. Would it also be a good choice to get Bosch 044 + new wiring when putting the 55s, what are the stock fuel pump limitations?

 

I would change the pump, the standard pump was fine when it was new
20 years later probably not so fine
a std pump is good for 430 bhp

 

If you can spare the cash 55lb Siemens and appropriate chip.. If not msd closed loop chip will be good . I have this set up and I am very happy with it .. Mine was originally on a old super chips chip but runs so much better on msd chip . Plus if you need advice they always help

 

My old thread revived!!

I completed this conversion a while ago now, stayed on the greens and re-wired std pump and as you said above my 23 year old pump struggled a little and the most boost we could give it was 1.6bar. Made 329hp and 378lb torque.

PS - I got married and still have the cossie if your other reply was meant for me??

 

Pmsl I'll have to look at dates in future.. You must have a good woman if you still got cossie.. I still got mine but lost a few women on way .. Car first

 

Being as they are hard to find now how much for the 55,s Tony as i want this upgrade. Failing that what would be the next best injector to suit the T34 .48 and maxing its limit safely?
Thanks
Mike

 

Just curious but how come cars have been running greens on a stage 3 setup with t34 for as long as i can remember with no hassle?

Only asking cause i have a set going in mine with a stg3 chip and t34 and want it to be safe.