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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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Hi lads i bought a punto 3 months ago to drive about in whilst my RST is being restored,
well last night whilst leaving asda the car died, i tried to restart it but it sounded like it had no compression, so whipped the cambelt cover aside and its snapped,

NOW: i have been told 1.1 puntos rarely bend valves? is this true~?
if so i can hopefully bang a belt on and plod on again
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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yes, they dont bend the valves when the belt snaps
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Back of the net! Thanks mate
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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yes, they dont bend the valves when the belt snaps
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My mate had exactly the same problem...next day new cambelt and was good as gold!
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8 valves dont 16 valves do
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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sounds like your lucky it hasnt fucked it then lol
good job they dont bend valve's, thats if they dont lol
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Change the waterpump too while you're at it - they like to go at around the same age as the cambelt. Cheap and easy fix.
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Originally Posted by botters
8 valves dont 16 valves do
Do u mean 8 valve puntos dont or 8 valve cars in general mate
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8 valve punto's mate not 8 valve cars in general unfortunatly
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check autodata to see if its registered as an interference engine
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Some 16v engines are 'safe' too.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Change the waterpump too while you're at it - they like to go at around the same age as the cambelt. Cheap and easy fix.
Lol with the waterpump takin me the most of ten minutes to change a month ago, and not caring about the motor as its just a banger, i put the old belt back on as it didnt have ANY cracks etc in it, oh well.....lesson learnt
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A little tip for you next time. If you suspect a Cambelt has snapped on a car, then instead of whipping of the Cambelt cover, just take off the oil filler cap, and get someone to crank over the Engine. Providing the Camshafts etc are visible, then they should spin as the Engine turns over.
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Originally Posted by Frenchy0204
A little tip for you next time. If you suspect a Cambelt has snapped on a car, then instead of whipping of the Cambelt cover, just take off the oil filler cap, and get someone to crank over the Engine. Providing the Camshafts etc are visible, then they should spin as the Engine turns over.
Top tip mate my cambelt cover pulls aside tho lol
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i snapped my puntos timing belt on the motorway at 70mph , not a thing happened

damn i feel old was my 1st car at 17 (11 years ago cry cry )
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Originally Posted by Frenchy0204
just take off the oil filler cap, and get someone to crank over the Engine. Providing the Camshafts etc are visible, then they should spin as the Engine turns over.
...and risk doing more damage to the engine.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
...and risk doing more damage to the engine.
Not really. The Valves would already be bent out of the way IF it did already bend them, so you would not be causing anymore damage that it already has.
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Originally Posted by Frenchy0204
Not really. The Valves would already be bent out of the way IF it did already bend them, so you would not be causing anymore damage that it already has.
Agreed, but while there is still a chance of it doing more damage I wouldn't risk it.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Agreed, but while there is still a chance of it doing more damage I wouldn't risk it.
I can see where your coming from, and ofcourse, you shouldn't sit there cranking the Engine over and over if you suspect the Cambelt is snapped. Just a quick "blip" of the Starter motor would do it.
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Originally Posted by Frenchy0204
I can see where your coming from, and ofcourse, you shouldn't sit there cranking the Engine over and over if you suspect the Cambelt is snapped. Just a quick "blip" of the Starter motor would do it.
Ok, I concede.
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Originally Posted by Frenchy0204
A little tip for you next time. If you suspect a Cambelt has snapped on a car, then instead of whipping of the Cambelt cover, just take off the oil filler cap, and get someone to crank over the Engine. Providing the Camshafts etc are visible, then they should spin as the Engine turns over.
useless tip for this engine as there is a steel plate under the cam cover youll see nowt.

i work on these all the time ive been a tech at a fiat garage for ten years never had a fire engine bend valves when cambelt snapped.head gaskets last five minutes though.
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Originally Posted by sir nose
useless tip for this engine as there is a steel plate under the cam cover youll see nowt.
I take it you didn't read my post properly then?

Read it again, spring cutter...
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Originally Posted by Frenchy0204
Read it again, spring cutter...
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Originally Posted by Frenchy0204
I take it you didn't read my post properly then?

Read it again, spring cutter...

am i wrong?
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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Did I say you was? I said if the Camshafts ARE visible, then you could do it. I wasn't just applying my post to Puntos. But nevermind, your a fiat tech eh? Wow. I better ask you next time then!
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Originally Posted by sir nose
useless tip for this engine as there is a steel plate under the cam cover youll see nowt.

i work on these all the time ive been a tech at a fiat garage for ten years never had a fire engine bend valves when cambelt snapped.head gaskets last five minutes though.
10 years !!!!!!!!




















































you pore git
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