Sierra Cosworth OCD Update 1/11/2011 NOW FOR SALE
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I thought I'd better get some pics up of my cosworth rebuild that Im doing. I bought the car in Jan 2008 and have finally got bored of the 350bhp, as you do! The engine was rebuilt approx 12000miles ago and was still running fine when I took it out. It was running standard everything except for the 6 long studs. Im going for a full rebuild as Im aiming for big power. My plan is to go aftermarket managment with knock sensor and lamba.
Pics of the car how it look a week or two ago



I now have the engine out and fully stripped





Pic of the crank, looks good still from its last build

Finally got the long studs out, struggled with these for ages!!


Now Im waiting until friday to get my block and flywheel back from the machine shop. Getting the block faced and the bores honed.
More pics coming soon!
Pics of the car how it look a week or two ago



I now have the engine out and fully stripped





Pic of the crank, looks good still from its last build

Finally got the long studs out, struggled with these for ages!!


Now Im waiting until friday to get my block and flywheel back from the machine shop. Getting the block faced and the bores honed.
More pics coming soon!
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Here are some pics of the shiney new bits Ive collected over the last few months:
Ive got hold of a ported 2wd head, never been used since ported. Bought it off Loader on here and a very good price!




GT3071r turbo from CR turbos


Siemens 83lph injectors

Swedish style inlet bought off Hoogi on here

Got loads more stuff coming in the post this week, Im not going to be popular with the posty I can safely say lol
Ive got hold of a ported 2wd head, never been used since ported. Bought it off Loader on here and a very good price!




GT3071r turbo from CR turbos


Siemens 83lph injectors

Swedish style inlet bought off Hoogi on here

Got loads more stuff coming in the post this week, Im not going to be popular with the posty I can safely say lol
Looking nice mate, didn't think the inlet had come already! Did you put extra weights on your bar for the photo lol
When my rst is out the way i'll give you a hand with stuff.
Rob,
When my rst is out the way i'll give you a hand with stuff.
Rob,
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Spent this evening subtly modifiying my cylindar head with grinder. I had to remove the original turbo damper casting:



To make space for this



Also seperated my conrods as I taking them to be shot peened at the weekend:


Thats prob all Ill get done this week, will get more done at the weekend once Ive got some more bits delivered!



To make space for this




Also seperated my conrods as I taking them to be shot peened at the weekend:


Thats prob all Ill get done this week, will get more done at the weekend once Ive got some more bits delivered!
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Done a few bits today. Got my block back from the machine shop and after some plastic surgery, it has a new face!

Nice, freshly honed bores and flywheel


Spent an hour or two carefully measuring the bores to make sure they are all perfectly round at the top, middle and bottom of the cylinder. I done this using a bore gauge, snap gauges and a micrometer. I had a piston held at three different heights using some calibrated, top notch pieces of wood found in the garden. Having the piston in there also helps keep my snap gauge perpendicular to the cylinder walls to get consistent readings.



Nice, freshly honed bores and flywheel


Spent an hour or two carefully measuring the bores to make sure they are all perfectly round at the top, middle and bottom of the cylinder. I done this using a bore gauge, snap gauges and a micrometer. I had a piston held at three different heights using some calibrated, top notch pieces of wood found in the garden. Having the piston in there also helps keep my snap gauge perpendicular to the cylinder walls to get consistent readings.


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Does the manifold grey not burn off? Ive tried some manifold paints before and they just smoke for a while and your back to bare metal! I was thinking about getting the manifold and turbo ceramic coated but I thought it was abit expensive for what it is tbh.
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Ive come across some shortages and need to find some bits asap if possible. Hopefully someone has a scrap head with the following bits nailed on, I have put up a thread in the wanted section too. Can pay with paypal.
So, has anyone got the following:
Camshaft pulley bolts and washers. I did see some stainless ones for sale but cant find them anymore??
4 exhaust manifold studs
5 inlet manifold studs
2wd camshaft bearing housing x2
1 stud for the camshaft cap
and 2 thinner studs for the front bearing cap
Would be a great help...cheers
So, has anyone got the following:
Camshaft pulley bolts and washers. I did see some stainless ones for sale but cant find them anymore??
4 exhaust manifold studs
5 inlet manifold studs
2wd camshaft bearing housing x2
1 stud for the camshaft cap
and 2 thinner studs for the front bearing cap
Would be a great help...cheers

Not meaning to be picky no doubt the work thats gone into that head has cost a fair amount, But its been skimmed to hell so much so it has gone in to casting around the exhaust ports.
Have you measured the head thickness? if your planning big power i'd not want to use that head there is no inlet valve seat area left now and run the risk of the valve seat dropping out
Ive come across some shortages and need to find some bits asap if possible. Hopefully someone has a scrap head with the following bits nailed on, I have put up a thread in the wanted section too. Can pay with paypal.
So, has anyone got the following:
Camshaft pulley bolts and washers. I did see some stainless ones for sale but cant find them anymore??
4 exhaust manifold studs
5 inlet manifold studs
2wd camshaft bearing housing x2
1 stud for the camshaft cap
and 2 thinner studs for the front bearing cap
Would be a great help...cheers
So, has anyone got the following:
Camshaft pulley bolts and washers. I did see some stainless ones for sale but cant find them anymore??
4 exhaust manifold studs
5 inlet manifold studs
2wd camshaft bearing housing x2
1 stud for the camshaft cap
and 2 thinner studs for the front bearing cap
Would be a great help...cheers
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Not meaning to be picky no doubt the work thats gone into that head has cost a fair amount, But its been skimmed to hell so much so it has gone in to casting around the exhaust ports.
Have you measured the head thickness? if your planning big power i'd not want to use that head there is no inlet valve seat area left now and run the risk of the valve seat dropping out
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Its not that caps that I am after guys, I'm just missing a couple of the studs and the bearing housing, this thing:

Just dont fancy spending Ł120 for a pair from burtons!

Just dont fancy spending Ł120 for a pair from burtons!
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Hi Mike,
I think the reason for silky16v's post was due to the known weakness of the material in that area when overskimmed
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...limit-why.html
Just a post i read a while back on it
I think the reason for silky16v's post was due to the known weakness of the material in that area when overskimmed
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...limit-why.html
Just a post i read a while back on it
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I want around 450bhp powerwise, Spec wise it will reach this easy, but Im not necessarily chasing numbers, just a good solid build with nothing stressed to the max (hopefully).
As for the head, that is an interesting read and comparing the figures from the thread to mine are approaching the recommended max limits, another skim and it will defo be scrap!
But cheers for the heads up silky16v and natehall
As for the head, that is an interesting read and comparing the figures from the thread to mine are approaching the recommended max limits, another skim and it will defo be scrap!
But cheers for the heads up silky16v and natehall
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Will try to James! Ill come down the wsrsoc meet when ive stuck the engine back where it belongs. Still waiting on bits that have taken over a week to come so its stopped progress at the moment, so thats another weekend down the shitter!
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Cheers for the comments lads.
Time for a small update. Finally got the bits ive been waiting for after 3 weeks! Its thrown a spanner in the works big time. Was hoping to have the engine built and run in by central day, but theres no chance of that happening now
But any way, heres a few pics of more new goodies, Just need to find some time to screw it all together now!
I bit the bullet and bought some wossner pistons, now I know there have been some mixed views on these off PF, but I dug deeper and looked at the VW and Vauxhall forums and they seem to get on well with them. Aslong as the clearances are set properly then they seem reliable. I think the main problem is that they need more clearance than most other pistons manufacturers and people just arn't aware.


I also bought all new head bits, New newman cams, double valve spring, hydraulic tappets, arp rod bolts and flywheel bolts. Also some ACL race bearings.




Also got hold of a steering coloumn UJ poly bush as mine is completly shagged! Good time to fit it when the engines not in the hole me thinks!

I got a dirt cheap set of cams of ebay with the bearing housings I were after for a tenner, cant complain there! well chuffed!
So all I need to do now is pull my finger out and get building...enjoy!
Time for a small update. Finally got the bits ive been waiting for after 3 weeks! Its thrown a spanner in the works big time. Was hoping to have the engine built and run in by central day, but theres no chance of that happening now
I bit the bullet and bought some wossner pistons, now I know there have been some mixed views on these off PF, but I dug deeper and looked at the VW and Vauxhall forums and they seem to get on well with them. Aslong as the clearances are set properly then they seem reliable. I think the main problem is that they need more clearance than most other pistons manufacturers and people just arn't aware.


I also bought all new head bits, New newman cams, double valve spring, hydraulic tappets, arp rod bolts and flywheel bolts. Also some ACL race bearings.




Also got hold of a steering coloumn UJ poly bush as mine is completly shagged! Good time to fit it when the engines not in the hole me thinks!

I got a dirt cheap set of cams of ebay with the bearing housings I were after for a tenner, cant complain there! well chuffed!

So all I need to do now is pull my finger out and get building...enjoy!
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About 450, maybe abit more. I was thinking about going for an Mtech ecu and gettting them to map it, but Ive recently had a re think and I am very tempted to put an L8 ecu in it and have all the extras put on it by MSD and get them to map it as well.
What are peoples thoughts on this?
What are peoples thoughts on this?
some nice parts you got there so far msd are very good at live mapping a car but when you have problems there help is very poor at times but they do pull it out the bag occasionally though
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miller3, Yes i did, I started off using a hacksaw because i thought i might get abit carried away with a grinder. However the hacksaw was impossible to keep in a straight line lol so finished it off with a grinder which was much better!
Im following the original ford tolerances out of the manual for everything, except for the pistons which need 0.1mm clearance.
Im following the original ford tolerances out of the manual for everything, except for the pistons which need 0.1mm clearance.
Mike,
From what I understand, the problem people have with the Wossner pistons, is when they follow WOSSNER themselves, and go for the gap they suggest. A couple of people have said, that if you put them to a standard gap they are ok...why not a set of mahle and get valve cut outs? Or for a tad more CP!
I think you still stand a chance for Santa Pod
From what I understand, the problem people have with the Wossner pistons, is when they follow WOSSNER themselves, and go for the gap they suggest. A couple of people have said, that if you put them to a standard gap they are ok...why not a set of mahle and get valve cut outs? Or for a tad more CP!
I think you still stand a chance for Santa Pod
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I see what your saying James, but I'm sure that wossner know what clearance to suggest. I might stick them in the oven for abit and see what the difference in size is after abit of heat expansion. I went for the wossner piston because they were a close match to my bore size and are resonably priced. I was going to get a set of cosworth racing pistons, but the smallest bore size is 91.5mm and I dont see the point in going out to that size when my bores are fine as they are. AND I would not have recieved them until end of april due to being made on demand, or so I was told by the company I contacted about them.
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The ford manual says ring gaps should be 0.4-0.65mm for the top and middle ring, and the bottom ring 0.3-0.6mm all spaced 120 degrees apart. Dont know what those work out to be in tho though?







