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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Anyone any thoughts?

I was toying with the idea of a twin engined Mk2 Fezzy...

One in the front, one in the back, both throwing about 300bhp each...

The crazier the idea the better!!

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Oh, it would have to look really standard from the outside for comedy aspects lol
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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you can have my st170 I want to have it back on the weekends tho . . .
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by M-Tech Automotive
One in the front, one in the back, both throwing about 300bhp each...
Bad idea imo. Twin engine is max power chavtastic.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Saw a post recently about twin engiens and chip said they were not so good as its really 2x 2wd and not 4wd. hard to get it to handle too maybe.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrjenrst
Bad idea imo. Twin engine is max power chavtastic.

dito,

how about a 4x4 cos fez? just build something you can use and abuse round a few tracks and just enjoy
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Yeh it was more of a 'something mad' idea.

I do prefer RWD over FWD however, maybe mid engined? Or drop scooby running gear under a fezzy chassis?

hmm....
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
Saw a post recently about twin engiens and chip said they were not so good as its really 2x 2wd and not 4wd. hard to get it to handle too maybe.
I'd imagine it been virtually impossible to get each engine running in perfect sync.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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Ah I can tie two V4 ECUs together over can and make it so whicever is leading retards timing to match. It could be done but would need me to hash some software together...

Either that or somesort of electronic TB.... TANGENT! lol
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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New shape festa or ka with turbo duratec & rwd or 4x4
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by M-Tech Automotive
It could be done but would need me to hash some software together...
make it sound easy i'd be looking outside the box mk3 fiesta rwd rear engine focus rs lump? Fuck knows really
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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hmm KA Duratec turbo in the back.... that sounds tempting!

ideally wanted to go for a real oldschool rusty beaten nail of a Mk2, silly power but standard interior, tartan blanket on the back seat, trilby hat in the rear window, the works... that would be interesting! running on 13" steels as well of course lol

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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YB mid engined KA
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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id stick to a newer shape of car than an old mk2 fiesta
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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at a guess u want the engine in the back! what about a cossie YB in back of a mk2 not sure of room but could have a custom short drive prop, so would be more mid engine, if u could get the engine close to front seats but you may want ear defenders on tho!
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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I would say something that can adeqately demonstrate your companys abilities so maybe a modern engine that people have not started to play with to much and a new shape Fiesta or something,

Mike
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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What work does your company undertake Matt? is it chassis work, cages, mapping or just general tuning?

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Mk5 Fiesta?

Maybe with a stroked 2.3 Duratec?
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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lol this is getting silly, all this talk of YBs and being in the middle of things lol! (actually exactly the sort of things I was thinking!)

Mike, we mainly specialise in standalone engine management installation and mapping, but we also do roll cage instalaltion, seam welding, and general tuning on performance vehicles. We look after quite a few cars/teams that compete in hill climbs, sprints and series such as the castle combe saloon car champs. Also find outselves building supercharged zetecs for kit cars as well as finishing kit car builds for IVAs and so forth.

I think project wise, we need 2 things: A chosen chassis/shell, and a chosen powerplant...

Powerplant, one of my fav options is a circa 400bhp Supercharged (rotrex) Zetec, we've built a couple and they pull like trains. Quite good in terms of power delivery as well so maybe try something FWD, then move it to the back at a later date? Or.... we have a fibreglass firm just around from us, pehaps a fibreglass focus body over a spaceframed 500+bhp 4WD setup?

The aim really would be using the car for hill-climb and sprints, so being light is a plus chassis wise...

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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i guess if you want it light start with something light then the space framing and fibreglass panels will just make it lighter still, old skool lol, an old car thrashen modern always gets looks which is good advertisment
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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Turbo'ed duratec in a RWD MK7 fiesta S2000 replica - would be amazing!
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Yeah that was my thoughts hence the Mk2 (my first car!).... you;re all gunna laugh at this but when I was 17 (several years ago now, and you'll all be glad to know that we don't do bodywork at M-Tech!) I discovered something called a Panuique bodykit and P45 filler..... I did this in my garage with rattle cans. It was a nail of a 1.1, but I thought it was the NUTZ!! Its long gone now sold it to a chap from notts for Ł600 lol!! I can hear the LOLs from here!!






I really shoudnt of posted them but hell, we've all done it, right?

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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buy my solid dark green standard mk2 1600 sport escort. make it look back to standard and fit something special mechanically.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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gotta be a small hatch for this lil project I think cheers for the offer though!!
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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So something modern with a modern power plant you make the chassis and cage and have some fibre glass panels put over, develope the engine say a modern engine from the current Ford range not something as old a Zetec say a modern 5 cylinder engine like Austen W is playing with and make a name for yourself with it

It is easy to be a sheep, make something people shout about if it is a company demo, show the best you can do and be groundbreaking

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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supercharged/turbo charged... focus st engine / 4wd (volvo sourced) in a mk2 focus fibreglass shell dropped over a space frame or heavily caged shell....this was gonna be my next project but possible house move and a new hobby on way i can see it happening now so you can have the idea matt
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Shame you want hatch.
Was gonna say...

One of these...

http://www.oldfordautos.co.uk/

Followed with four of these...

http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/upl...ide%20view.JPG

One for each wheel...

You said you wanted mental.
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tubed chassis fiesta with a 600+ bhp stroker duratec turbo (front or rear mounted) but chassis to do what its built for
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2.6 twin turbo 4wd
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:14 AM
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new fiesta.600bhp zetec/duratec.6 speed sequential gearbox.light weight 4x4 drivechain.
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Mk6 Fiesta Van, standard out side, space framed rear with Twin R1 Engines in the rear run by 2 of your V4 ECU's with Fly By Wire for the throttle.

Or another Mk6 Fiesta with a Compound Charged Duratec in a space framed rear chassis. Again Std outside.
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seeing as you have a soft spot for the mk2 fez stick with that and depending on how hard you want to make it and how many spare hours you can devote to it stick a zetec turbo/supergharger in the back run it on a foci rs box so easier just to run hydrolic clutch and cable select then you'll have rwd and the weight will transfer over wheels for sprints or quarter stuff, if you've got a bit more time try a new st engine but running 400@wheels in rear too either would be fun
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Dare to be different, rear engined FWD sierra
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On a more serious note....


ST185 Celica + Mk2 fiesta = awesome 4wd fiesta without being mega money
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Originally Posted by M-Tech Automotive
Anyone any thoughts?

I was toying with the idea of a twin engined Mk2 Fezzy...

One in the front, one in the back, both throwing about 300bhp each...

The crazier the idea the better!!

Matt
defantly a mk2 fez mate baige one of course
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