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So wat would you giive them ???
Horriffic as the crime is............ it's a long way from murder and further from shoplifting. The victim will be ruined for life, but then how long does it take to sink in what you've done is wrong ???
6 years in jail is a long long time.
Think of living in your bathroom for 22 odd hours a day for the next 6 strech.
Not saying it's enough, but not saying it's not gonna be tough. Rape is frowned upon inside. BIG style.
Horriffic as the crime is............ it's a long way from murder and further from shoplifting. The victim will be ruined for life, but then how long does it take to sink in what you've done is wrong ???
6 years in jail is a long long time.
Think of living in your bathroom for 22 odd hours a day for the next 6 strech.
Not saying it's enough, but not saying it's not gonna be tough. Rape is frowned upon inside. BIG style.
And SHOCK there ..... !! Said to the gf tonight why is it all the people who dont come from the uk are here doing crime, if its not rape its knife's/guns and gangs . send the fuckers back
true roscco but they have the ability to give 14 year sentance for rape for adults and that should include those over 16.
if your old enough to legally have sex then your old enough to understand the consequences and repurcussions of sexual crimes.
In fact IMO ALL serious crimes for those over the age of criminal responsibility (age 10) should carry the adult sentance unless extreme extenuating circumstances.
Yes i know those sentanced 14 years rarely serve that but more use should be used of the powers to put mandatory minimum sentancing upto the full 14 years if needs be.
Sure we dont have enough prisons. I know a shit load of builders out of work
2 birds one stone??
if your old enough to legally have sex then your old enough to understand the consequences and repurcussions of sexual crimes.
In fact IMO ALL serious crimes for those over the age of criminal responsibility (age 10) should carry the adult sentance unless extreme extenuating circumstances.
Yes i know those sentanced 14 years rarely serve that but more use should be used of the powers to put mandatory minimum sentancing upto the full 14 years if needs be.
Sure we dont have enough prisons. I know a shit load of builders out of work
2 birds one stone??
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Often sentances would be more acceptable IF we didn't know that at most they serve half with good behaviour, and more often are out on take in 1/3 of the time.
Personally i think a sentance should be served in FULL and if you dont behave inside the sentence goes up.
Vai knowledge of someone close to me, good behaviour is RUBBISH, couldn't have been less well behaved, yet was out on tag in 5 months of an 18 month sentance?
Personally i think a sentance should be served in FULL and if you dont behave inside the sentence goes up.
Vai knowledge of someone close to me, good behaviour is RUBBISH, couldn't have been less well behaved, yet was out on tag in 5 months of an 18 month sentance?
Sadly after the first couple of beatings they will be segregated for thier own protection.
Thier human rights to be free from persecution, violence etc
pathetic how they take the rights of the convicted rapist above the rights of the victim to not be raped and the closure that real justice would help give.
Thier human rights to be free from persecution, violence etc
pathetic how they take the rights of the convicted rapist above the rights of the victim to not be raped and the closure that real justice would help give.
hope they get a taste of there own medicine but this being the uk they will be protected 24/7 in a secure wing with other vile sex offending cunts watching there tv,s playing there playstations while taunting there victims on facebook.
disgrace!!!!!!!!
disgrace!!!!!!!!
the whole system is a joke!!
A female friend of mine recently ended up having her ex locked up after her ex went psycho and beat another bloke up for looking at her (despite being split up). He then went at cops with a knife when they came for him.
Got 8 months (due to previous) and is now in a Cat C wing and has his own cell, ensuite FFS, phone in room, access to sky TV, 1 hour playstaion3 access a day if good, and good food!! Holiday camp FFS!!
Its supposed to be punnishment!!
A female friend of mine recently ended up having her ex locked up after her ex went psycho and beat another bloke up for looking at her (despite being split up). He then went at cops with a knife when they came for him.
Got 8 months (due to previous) and is now in a Cat C wing and has his own cell, ensuite FFS, phone in room, access to sky TV, 1 hour playstaion3 access a day if good, and good food!! Holiday camp FFS!!
Its supposed to be punnishment!!
i think the only way would be castration............ not the chemical way thats far too humane, it needs 2 bricks an elastic band and a heffer of a female prison guard on the blob to carry it out, imo much more effective then being locked up
So that'll be killing two stones with one bird then !!!
How do you know they are not from the UK, it says they are from Rochdale? It could be their grandparents that emigrated here.
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Yeah but if you trace back your family tree you are bound to find that you are an immigrant in some way, possibly from a raping & pillaging viking. At what point do you consider yourself english. These rapists deserve everything they get but ive got a few mates that you two would probably class as immigrants by looking at them and have them on the next ship to wherever and id be gutted, they are as british as you or me, they cant help that their skin is a different tone.
well to be fair, they could be immigrants straight off the plane living in rochdale, I have no idea but i just dont think its fair to judge and jump to that assumption, oh they have a foreign sounding name and dark skin, must be a rapist. Im sure there are just as many sick fuckers in every walk of life,
Even if you think englands over-run with foreigners etc thats a different issue, its along way from saying someones scrounging off our system to saying that all immigrants are responsible for knife crime/violent sexual assault.
Even if you think englands over-run with foreigners etc thats a different issue, its along way from saying someones scrounging off our system to saying that all immigrants are responsible for knife crime/violent sexual assault.
The colour of someones skin does NOT bother me. It bothers me when they use it in defence to get away with stuff .
The white english man is not aloud to speak his mind anymore or he's made to feel racist and bad, well sorry them wankers would be on the 1st boat back to there shit pit . And if that 16 year old girl was my daughter id get done for murder x3
The white english man is not aloud to speak his mind anymore or he's made to feel racist and bad, well sorry them wankers would be on the 1st boat back to there shit pit . And if that 16 year old girl was my daughter id get done for murder x3
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fooking wankers it boils my piss to read this they would be on a one way ride to the land fill if that was my daughter, the uk has a shite imigration policy and has let in far to many wankers and the do gooders keep them comeing. so glad i'm out of it now. constantly getting ya face rubbed in it with shite like them and there sort. fook that you can keep the uk for me i'm just gutted for all who have to put up with this sort of shite
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So wat would you giive them ???
Horriffic as the crime is............ it's a long way from murder and further from shoplifting. The victim will be ruined for life, but then how long does it take to sink in what you've done is wrong ???
6 years in jail is a long long time.
Horriffic as the crime is............ it's a long way from murder and further from shoplifting. The victim will be ruined for life, but then how long does it take to sink in what you've done is wrong ???
6 years in jail is a long long time.
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The colour of someones skin does NOT bother me. It bothers me when they use it in defence to get away with stuff .
The white english man is not aloud to speak his mind anymore or he's made to feel racist and bad, well sorry them wankers would be on the 1st boat back to there shit pit . And if that 16 year old girl was my daughter id get done for murder x3
The white english man is not aloud to speak his mind anymore or he's made to feel racist and bad, well sorry them wankers would be on the 1st boat back to there shit pit . And if that 16 year old girl was my daughter id get done for murder x3

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Young offenders institutes are not like big adult prisons,even some of the adult prisons are holiday camps,they will probably have there own room with tvs they will be allowed games consoles ect
They shouldnt get let out early as people who commit violent crimes are not allowed to be considered for tag releases ect
They shouldnt get let out early as people who commit violent crimes are not allowed to be considered for tag releases ect
if they serve their time then fair enough, sentaced etc and job done
if they start to get out in 3 months or soem shit then it's going to be an issue
if crims stayed locked up for their full terms perhaps there wouldn't be so many rimes being commited, but i don't think the government understands that as their human rights might be offended
if they start to get out in 3 months or soem shit then it's going to be an issue
if crims stayed locked up for their full terms perhaps there wouldn't be so many rimes being commited, but i don't think the government understands that as their human rights might be offended
nothing you give them will what that poor girl went through, but i would want them in jail, for a long time, and let all the people in side know why they air there, AND for the jail staff to leave the room!
Sex offenders in adult prisons are in a separate section so that wont happen,they also go for there food before or after the the other prisoners,not sure about young offenders intitutes
This probably wont be a popular view, bit you all saying what this poor girl went thru etc, I didnt read in that article what she had to go thru, what I DID read was how she went there after getting a phone call, AND she was NOT made to drink the alcahol, but freely drunk it !
So is it not beyond the realms of imagination it wasnt a drag her in off the streets and beat her sensless type rape, but maybe a case of she did it got found out, and the way it says she has shamed her family (or similar) that maybe she is of the same non English sounding name race, and regretted it afterwards OR her family found out and she cried rape ???
NOT condoning rape and if she said NO, no matter how drunk she was, no should have been NO, and not a 5 man gang rape, and they deserve all or more than they got, just to me there seems very little in that story about what actually happened to her than how the papers normaly would put.
Steve
So is it not beyond the realms of imagination it wasnt a drag her in off the streets and beat her sensless type rape, but maybe a case of she did it got found out, and the way it says she has shamed her family (or similar) that maybe she is of the same non English sounding name race, and regretted it afterwards OR her family found out and she cried rape ???
NOT condoning rape and if she said NO, no matter how drunk she was, no should have been NO, and not a 5 man gang rape, and they deserve all or more than they got, just to me there seems very little in that story about what actually happened to her than how the papers normaly would put.
Steve
Just like the BNP, some people may thrive off seeing someone from an ethnic minority committing a crime. Not everyone of course - a lot of people including myself will genuinely feel sickened by this crime
This probably wont be a popular view, bit you all saying what this poor girl went thru etc, I didnt read in that article what she had to go thru, what I DID read was how she went there after getting a phone call, AND she was NOT made to drink the alcahol, but freely drunk it !
So is it not beyond the realms of imagination it wasnt a drag her in off the streets and beat her sensless type rape, but maybe a case of she did it got found out, and the way it says she has shamed her family (or similar) that maybe she is of the same non English sounding name race, and regretted it afterwards OR her family found out and she cried rape ???
NOT condoning rape and if she said NO, no matter how drunk she was, no should have been NO, and not a 5 man gang rape, and they deserve all or more than they got, just to me there seems very little in that story about what actually happened to her than how the papers normaly would put.
Steve
So is it not beyond the realms of imagination it wasnt a drag her in off the streets and beat her sensless type rape, but maybe a case of she did it got found out, and the way it says she has shamed her family (or similar) that maybe she is of the same non English sounding name race, and regretted it afterwards OR her family found out and she cried rape ???
NOT condoning rape and if she said NO, no matter how drunk she was, no should have been NO, and not a 5 man gang rape, and they deserve all or more than they got, just to me there seems very little in that story about what actually happened to her than how the papers normaly would put.
Steve
You have to wonder how much spin news sites and papers put on things. Though BBC is probably one of the more neutral ones. Imagine the Daily Mail or the Sun or someone and how theyd report it...
theres a big difference between going to a party to drink and have a laugh and going then getting raped!!
if she knew them as mates why shouldnt she go round?? theres hundreds of thousands if not millions of girls (and boys) who do similar and none of them expect to get raped.
In fact psychologically, being raped by trusted friends after being lured to this party just to be raped is far worse than being dragged off street due to the betrayal of trust, manipulation of the initially innocent relationship and the effects stemming from that.
if she knew them as mates why shouldnt she go round?? theres hundreds of thousands if not millions of girls (and boys) who do similar and none of them expect to get raped.
In fact psychologically, being raped by trusted friends after being lured to this party just to be raped is far worse than being dragged off street due to the betrayal of trust, manipulation of the initially innocent relationship and the effects stemming from that.
I didn't say you said that, but the way youre generalising every single immigrant makes me highlight that theyre no worse than the local inhabitants of the uk. Feel free to disagree...
Ye, and know someone who had that happen to them, ok not by 5 guys but by one "friend".
Not right by no accounts.
BUT
IF the girl HAD agreed, is it wrong for the guys to actually have CONSENTING sex with her when she that drunk ???
Could all depend on the actuall girl, if known she was up for it anyway, then the fact she drunk shouldnt stop them, BUT decent guys who know she only doing it cos the way the drink affected her is wrong of them, and YES could personaly say I wouldnt !
Just to me something dont ring true about THAT story, sort of skipped over it all really,dont know just dont read like a normal rape story .
Steve
Not right by no accounts.
BUT
IF the girl HAD agreed, is it wrong for the guys to actually have CONSENTING sex with her when she that drunk ???
Could all depend on the actuall girl, if known she was up for it anyway, then the fact she drunk shouldnt stop them, BUT decent guys who know she only doing it cos the way the drink affected her is wrong of them, and YES could personaly say I wouldnt !
Just to me something dont ring true about THAT story, sort of skipped over it all really,dont know just dont read like a normal rape story .
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