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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Well i just want to know your view on cosworth management as i have saved a my pennys now and have enought money to get it ??

What are the pros and cons, will there be any power gains or losses

any genral changes i would notice ??

Oh and my cars pritty much standard
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Well i just want to know your view on cosworth management as i have saved a my pennys now and have enought money to get it ??

What are the pros and cons, will there be any power gains or losses

any genral changes i would notice ??

Oh and my cars pritty much standard
if the cars standard then too be honest don't bother wasting your money!
the cossie management route is for cars that need to run more than 180bhp+
I would spend the money on uprating the engine, clutch, gearbox, head before cossie management.
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if the cars standard then too be honest don't bother wasting your money!
the cossie management route is for cars that need to run more than 180bhp+
I would spend the money on uprating the engine, clutch, gearbox, head before cossie management.

I heard the best thing to do it get the cossie management before anything els.
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I heard the best thing to do it get the cossie management before anything els.
i converted my mates a few months back, on std engine, works really well. better response, smooth running, and shit loads of potions now for power, his is making around a safe 200bhp with plenty of upgrading to do in the future, oh and also you get the chatter as well, lol
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i converted my mates a few months back, on std engine, works really well. better response, smooth running, and shit loads of potions now for power, his is making around a safe 200bhp with plenty of upgrading to do in the future, oh and also you get the chatter as well, lol

200bhp on a std engin ?//
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200bhp on a std engin ?//
i hope youve matched the fuelling thats a 70 bhp increase over standerd just on the managment!
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i hope youve matched the fuelling thats a 70 bhp increase over standerd just on the managment!
huh ??
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200bhp on a std engin ?//
std engine and you have gained 70 bhp with cossie managment with no other engine work
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std engine and you have gained 70 bhp with cossie managment with no other engine work

Eactly my point, didnt think you could achive 200bhp just on managment alone
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std engine and you have gained 70 bhp with cossie managment with no other engine work
Thats what i was thinking!
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Originally Posted by morph
Thats what i was thinking!
was really on about the block its self is std rods etc, the cars running front mount intercooler, stg3 t35 hybrid turbo t34 exhaust housing, ported head, cosworth tb, so i would say that would help,, just sayin that the std engine block, would hold no more than 200 bhp,
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Originally Posted by andyuk
was really on about the block its self is std rods etc, the cars running front mount intercooler, stg3 t35 hybrid turbo t34 exhaust housing, ported head, cosworth tb, so i would say that would help,, just sayin that the std engine block, would hold no more than 200 bhp,
I was under the impression the guy has a completely standard engine and does not have a different head etc..
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To be honest, i wouldnt spend the money on Cossie management. For around the same money you could go for Pectel T2...a far better option IMO. Have seen a few for sale lately with loom.

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i would definatly swap management before i done anything else, as said above the standard mfi escort managment is wank, change management and it will transform the car completly

no point spending thousands on pistons, rods head etc when its gonna be limited by the wank managment
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I've got 75% of my parts together now for cossie manangement, next stop is to get down to jano for the last bits, think I will wait for the weather to get a bit better before driving to essex though
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defo worth doing mate,it will make the car so much nicer to drive,its defo worth spending your money on before you do much else to it mate.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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ive had this conversion b4 on my first rst done by jano at oddkidd creations, i would say management first, smoother running, mutch more reliable than shitty mfi, very noticable power increase, my car was running standard t3 with -31, standard bottom end, standard head cam, car produced 212 bhp, and engine wnt on for 20k, no issiues but put a low comp bottom end in that came up cheap, the engine is now in my combi van,
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How much is cossie management complete?or can you not buy all the parts off the shelf now as ive been told its all old second hand bits
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How much is cossie management complete?or can you not buy all the parts off the shelf now as ive been told its all old second hand bits
have a look on ebay for getting the kit cheap otherwise its around 1500quid odd to have cossie management.
but then for that price you could go with gotech, omex, dta, pectal, or other indepandant management systems that run most drivers and are fully mappable.
nothing wrong with cossie management, i just prefered to go down the new route with indepandant like new ecu, new wiring loom, new sensor, new injectors and no need to have coilpack drivers, piggy boards for anti lag.
if you do chose cossie management then i would suggest going or at least speaking to jano as he has the whole cossie setup sorted! seen a car with his work and that was very good so can't fault his work!
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Originally Posted by morph
have a look on ebay for getting the kit cheap otherwise its around 1500quid odd to have cossie management.
but then for that price you could go with gotech, omex, dta, pectal, or other indepandant management systems that run most drivers and are fully mappable.
nothing wrong with cossie management, i just prefered to go down the new route with indepandant like new ecu, new wiring loom, new sensor, new injectors and no need to have coilpack drivers, piggy boards for anti lag.
if you do chose cossie management then i would suggest going or at least speaking to jano as he has the whole cossie setup sorted! seen a car with his work and that was very good so can't fault his work!
Cheers mate for advice,something to look into if i keep the escort
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Originally Posted by morph
have a look on ebay for getting the kit cheap otherwise its around 1500quid odd to have cossie management.
but then for that price you could go with gotech, omex, dta, pectal, or other indepandant management systems that run most drivers and are fully mappable.
nothing wrong with cossie management, i just prefered to go down the new route with indepandant like new ecu, new wiring loom, new sensor, new injectors and no need to have coilpack drivers, piggy boards for anti lag.
if you do chose cossie management then i would suggest going or at least speaking to jano as he has the whole cossie setup sorted! seen a car with his work and that was very good so can't fault his work!
Yeah janos one of them most genuin people i have ever met i have seen afew of his cossy mngmnt cars and they look superb oh and the kit is Ł1270
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you can buy brand new parts for webber managment like looms and sensors ect
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Couldnt say it better my self but that's the boat i am in now so matey get EFI sorted first whichever route you take

Spent 5k on all new bit's on the S1 engine and now stuck on MFI with it at mo,So now chasing EFI
If your after cossie management then see Jano.
If your after indepanadant management then speak to Enhance(Luke) he will sort you out fully mapped dta or gotech for around the 900 mark.
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Originally Posted by morph
If your after cossie management then see Jano.
If your after indepanadant management then speak to Enhance(Luke) he will sort you out fully mapped dta or gotech for around the 900 mark.

The diffrence between the two ??
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youve got to think mate the budget weber probly got for designing the "cossie" managment ecu's was probly more than omex gotech ect have ever earnt.im not saying that this is true just trying to put a point across.thats why its such aa good ecu and there is loads you can do with it.
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youve got to think mate the budget weber probly got for designing the "cossie" managment ecu's was probly more than omex gotech ect have ever earnt.im not saying that this is true just trying to put a point across.thats why its such aa good ecu and there is loads you can do with it.
i couldent make much sence of that lol ?
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well the amount of money weber will of had for developing the ecu is way more than omex gotech ect will get to develop theres. hence more time spent on development trying and testing different things ect to see what does and doesnt work ect.
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well the amount of money weber will of had for developing the ecu is way more than omex gotech ect will get to develop theres. hence more time spent on development trying and testing different things ect to see what does and doesnt work ect.
oh right yeah i see where your coming from...
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.but the best thing to do in any case mate is have a word with your tuner for what you are wanting and what your budget is ect.
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.but the best thing to do in any case mate is have a word with your tuner for what you are wanting and what your budget is ect.

Well its cossy for my i thinks
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well i presume youll be going back to jano dude? and if so you know what he is going to twist your arm with lol.just get it done if you can afford mate,itl make a world of difference.
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well i presume youll be going back to jano dude? and if so you know what he is going to twist your arm with lol.just get it done if you can afford mate,itl make a world of difference.

Yeah janos the man, i wont go anywhere els now.

its 1270 from jan
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I know a lot of people on this thread have mentioned other management systems, are the prices including all sensors, inlet manifold, injectors etc etc, or is that just for the ecu and looms?
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i would definatly swap management before i done anything else, as said above the standard mfi escort managment is wank, change management and it will transform the car completly

no point spending thousands on pistons, rods head etc when its gonna be limited by the wank managment

totlay agree! thought is was going mad there for a minute, cossie mgt is one the best ways to go to make your rst run better / more power ect mfi is pants after a GENUINE 180 bhp anyway

Doing the managment first just means that you can get the best out of every mod as you do it.
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Originally Posted by morph
have a look on ebay for getting the kit cheap otherwise its around 1500quid odd to have cossie management.
but then for that price you could go with gotech, omex, dta, pectal, or other indepandant management systems that run most drivers and are fully mappable.
nothing wrong with cossie management, i just prefered to go down the new route with indepandant like new ecu, new wiring loom, new sensor, new injectors and no need to have coilpack drivers, piggy boards for anti lag.
if you do chose cossie management then i would suggest going or at least speaking to jano as he has the whole cossie setup sorted! seen a car with his work and that was very good so can't fault his work!

all the sensors injectors ect ect are new if you get one of jano's conversions
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Yeah janos the man, i wont go anywhere els now.

its 1270 from jan
good price is that just parts are fittin inc?

jano is a top bloke aswell, plus hes 10 mins down the road from me, RESULT
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Originally Posted by rstel1
good price is that just parts are fittin inc?

jano is a top bloke aswell, plus hes 10 mins down the road from me, RESULT

Thats for the kit i think fitting is around 450 ....
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Originally Posted by rstel1
good price is that just parts are fittin inc?

jano is a top bloke aswell, plus hes 10 mins down the road from me, RESULT

Thats for the kit i think fitting is around 450 ....
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