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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Question cosworth stage 3

I am going to stage 3 i.e 803s, 3 bar map ect. can fitting a chip be done by yourself our is it a performance garage job? will it need setting up or is it just a case of fitting it.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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chips are easy to fit; just make sure you get one for your exact spec.

most chips will only require you to set the CO% at idle, but that's assuming everything else on the car is OK and set right.

if you are going to do it yourself, please make sure you get fueling checked on boost
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Agree 100% about getting it checked once you've fitted the parts as a friend found out to his cost.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Get a fuel pump RE-WIRE too fella....
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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All good advice here.

fuel pump wiring. check.
fuel filter. check.
4x4 or 500 intercooler. check.
new -31 wastegate actuator. check.
kick ass headgasket. check.
T43 and .48 or what have you. check.

Next go for 55lb siemens and the matching MSD chip. Then get a wideband O2 sensor and gauge. Keep it at 14.7 lambda on idle with the CO2 screw and watch the fuel on boost. I recommend the Innovate LC-1 and a air fuel gauge that reads numbers, not "rich" or "lean" is a must.
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How much more BHP can you get buy just fitting an intercooler.Ive seen somewhere that you can get up to 30 BHP.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
How much more BHP can you get buy just fitting an intercooler.Ive seen somewhere that you can get up to 30 BHP.

I know Rich AKA Twellsie made near on 30bhp on the test he did for Performance Ford from a 4x4 cooler to a 500 cooler..
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Yep. My 4x4 cooler is for sale now. I went Chinese 50mm 500.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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oil breather kit would be advisable too



tho the oil it`ll vent under ya car if you dont keeps the rust down
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
I know Rich AKA Twellsie made near on 30bhp on the test he did for Performance Ford from a 4x4 cooler to a 500 cooler..
I can remember reading that.I fancy a bigger intercooler now.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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skip 803s,

our 55lb T34 package is where its at!
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As said above, easy enough to fit yourself but get it checked out as soon as you have done it.
A few ŁŁ having it checked is a lot cheaper than a engine

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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by james @ m developments
skip 803s,

our 55lb t34 package is where its at!

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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Had it fully checked and a set-up recently at msd. new -31 Collins actuator ,4x4 intercooler.

What is ment by most chips will only require you to set the CO% at idle,how do i do it ???????
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
How much more BHP can you get buy just fitting an intercooler.Ive seen somewhere that you can get up to 30 BHP.
Asked myself that before but came to conclusion unless you have high ACT's then I can't see it making a difference unless driving hard like on track.

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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
skip 803s,

our 55lb T34 package is where its at!
Been thinking about this set up myself for a while as im not that happy with my current chip, im greys t34.48 holding 28psi, goes like fuck but what would i gain from the new chip and 55lb setup ?
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what software are you running?
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from my reading 7-10 hp and a lot of safety margin from proper fuelling. Off boost driveability and mileage is improved.

It's the spray pattern of the siemens that helps.
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
what software are you running?
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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and chip?
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its a a1 chip for standard comp & head, t34.48 & 500 cooler
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keep your greys and try our chip

cracking deals on at the mo
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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crimbo present to myself then
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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will transform it.

greys are fine if you can use them well.
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top man thanks for the advise
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
keep your greys and try our chip

You,ll make your mind up, you swear by 55lbs, come on James, one or tuther..


Seriously though, i agree with him, Greys are fine, some tuners/people hate them mind you..
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if your buying new, 55s all the way on baby t34,

but he has greys, which still out flow his turbocharger, so he may aswell keep them and run some decent software, our greys files are excellent

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Originally Posted by damian harris

What is ment by most chips will only require you to set the CO% at idle,how do i do it ???????
there is a screw on the ecu which adjust the CO%, its a global screw which adjust the whole map and not just at idle.

you'll need a CO% reader or go to any decent garage and they'll have one.

my msd chip stated that i have to have the co% between 2.5 -> 2.7% at idle (non lambda, obviously)
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go on paul, you know you want to!
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Also as a a point of reference if you set your fuel to 14.7 you'll get about %2.5 CO with this setup.
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how much is ur chip for standard comp on a t34.63 housing on greys at the mo james?! Also as an upgrade whats the best cam to run it for fast road use, the usual bd14 inlet route or something else?!
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Stock cams.
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std cams are good on a t34,

14 inlet does work well if pistons allow.

as for price...brb
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L6 t34 greys, Ł250 without our xmas email, and if you have it you will know how much they are in the sale!
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
L6 t34 greys, Ł250 without our xmas email, and if you have it you will know how much they are in the sale!


I Got mine then for some unknown reason deleted it . I am going to get the chip from you as well.
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
there is a screw on the ecu which adjust the CO%, its a global screw which adjust the whole map and not just at idle.

you'll need a CO% reader or go to any decent garage and they'll have one.

my msd chip stated that i have to have the co% between 2.5 -> 2.7% at idle (non lambda, obviously)

Thank's mate
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Originally Posted by damian harris
I Got mine then for some unknown reason deleted it . I am going to get the chip from you as well.
send an email to sales@remppping.co.uk and im sure we can get you another one sent lol
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
std cams are good on a t34,

14 inlet does work well if pistons allow.

as for price...brb
Are standard cams still good on a .63 housing?! or better suited to the .48 housing?! No probs switching to a bd14 inlet i had valve cuts outs machined into the pistons to allow for bigger cams at a later date
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Std cams are good. The chip is best suited to a .48 from what I understand since it has a broader power range and flatter torque curve.
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