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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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do i need to get my car setup if i have changed my head gasket or is it all ok as it seams to smoke and use so much fuel no its unreal it does 30 miles to a £10
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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thats crazy man shouldnt be that bad ! you made sure everything is connected and pluged in ???....
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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had the head skimmed?? , I would get it set-up yes
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Are you sure the cam AND ignition timing is correct ?
It is all TOO easy to refit the cam belt and get it wrong even when the engine still runs.

Check by winding the engine fowards using a socket on the crank pulley
out of gear (do not go backwards) and line up the ignition crank lug on the
mark and see how far the cam pointers are out.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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iSECS, i have checked the timming and it all looks spot on but would that cause me engine to run rich as my spark plugs are black and dry aswell
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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head was no skimmed as it was not blown but i did have it cheacked. it smokes now a light gray and if i bring the boost in it will over the road behind me but i idels perfect
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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Anything that can affect airflow WILL affect fuelling and running quality.

If the air flow changes (excluding boost pressure changes) the YB ECU
cannot adjust the fuelling to match.

Wrong cam timing can upset the normal airflow through the engine and make
the fuel map wrong.


When you say the timing is spot on, have you actually tested it in the way I have
said above as this is the ONLY way of verifying properly.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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iam going to cheack it now will let you no asap
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Check that the coolant sensor is connected and working.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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i had the same problem when i did mine .when undoing the multi plugs on the inner wing i disturbed one of the pins and also found rust on other pins so snipped them off .problem solved.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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right i have cheacked it and as you said the 2 top arows are pointing at each other and the bottom lug on the puly is bang on the point of line up and the bit in the rotor arm in in line with the the line
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Doug Stirling, its brand new 2 weeks ago and if i unplug it it will cut out the engine or run realy ruff
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Check that the coolant sensor is connected and working.
As doug says ...... try this

Blue sensor on back of head on right hand side (from front of engine)
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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yes i have cheackd it all is pluged in and both wiers are pluged in it was new 2 weeks ago has this got any thing to do with a bit of blue smoke i get and then lots of white gray smoke
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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30 miles to a tenner


my jag does that and thats only if i drive lightly
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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help some one any one
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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well id start by getting the c.o and timing double checked and adjusted
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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did you check the multi plugs on the inner wing
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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dont now wich one your on about whats it called
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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right if you rev a cossy to about 6000 rpm and come off on the spot should i get a blue followed by black then white smoke its a stage 3 cossy greens and so on
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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did you do the work yourself mate,if so i think maybe a trip to a tunner near you may be better than reving your car to 6k and watching smoke ,sounds a bit neanderthall(spl) could be costly
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by abdr500
right if you rev a cossy to about 6000 rpm and come off on the spot should i get a blue followed by black then white smoke its a stage 3 cossy greens and so on
don't think thats a good idea 6000 rpms on standstill
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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righthooker, i would take it to a rolling road set up but it was done about 4 month a go just replaced the head gasket and now iam getting blue smoke when coming on boost and and coming off boost but on idel its perfect thats why i was reving it and when revd thers a littel blue smoke
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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do not get ya carset up on a r/r !!!!
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by abdr500
righthooker, i would take it to a rolling road set up but it was done about 4 month a go just replaced the head gasket and now iam getting blue smoke when coming on boost and and coming off boost but on idel its perfect thats why i was reving it and when revd thers a littel blue smoke
blue smoke dont sound good take it 2 a specialist a get it sorted . oh f**k it what an i sayin just stop lookin in the rear view mirror thats what id do
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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Not telling you how to suck eggs.

Check and double check all ur sensors under the inlet manifold.
Mine had similar issues with a faulty Thermo sensor.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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oh f**k it what an i sayin just stop lookin in the rear view mirror thats what id do

and never let ya mates drive behind ya as ya will fook there wiper blades
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 07:14 AM
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Don't rev it up for goodness sake, that's the worst possible thing you could do!!! Smoke will be there because it's over fuelling and the fuel is unspent. I assume it's running on all four and isn't lumpy??? Sounds daft but you may have a lead out, or you could have a plug breaking down. Just a suggestion, but it may be something as simple as that or it could be ECU/sensor related which is throwing the map out as said before and the car can't compensate. Try the simple things first as they are often the cause and less costly than throwing it into a garage straight away.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Dragon, right i runs on all 4 and idel like a dream but its the blue smoke that is my concern but this is what i have done i have diconected the oil feed pipe to the turbo and stoped the turbo from spining and smoke is still ther so iam asuming its engine ie valve steam oil seals or vg but iam gona send the turbo off to get reconditioned any way and take the head off and put all new seals and recon the head my self as i can only trust my work
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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the car does not smoke when on idel it only smokes when you go back on the gas after a hard bit off boost and ther you go 1 big puff of blue smoke
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