E36 M3 3.2 Evo







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No one of the e36 coupe site did believe me, as It did 341bhp at john nobles. Now ehre another dyno another result. Banned of there anyway now, all cos everyone got really arsey about my claims.

wat u guys think genuine enough???

 

I dont see how they can claim its not genuine if its done it twice on 2 different sets of rollers that are properly operated etc.

I dont know anything about the spec of the car though, so no idea if it "should" be making that power or not.

Not like the IT on the graph is showing 50 or anything though, so all looks legit enough.


Turbo I take it?
Shoot_6F is for forced induction isnt it?
(just what ive heard, dont see why it would make any difference though!)

 

What modifications you sporting Taven?

 

Remap
Filter

Bunter

 

I thought remaps take them to around 350bhp, so I don't see why its impossible!

 

350 with just a remap? behave!

Thats E46 territory not E36

 

The Evo is 321bhp is it not, Just going by what i've read on forums Chip.

 

Yes mate, 321 is the quoted stock figure. (IIRC they put a lot of effort into getting that figure as they wanted to be able to quote "over 100bhp per litre" to compete with honda etc)

and BMW havent got the map so terribly wrong that by dialing in a couple of degrees extra advance and leaning it off a touch you pick up another 29bhp on a standard engine.

 

Only going from what i've read on a BMW forum, I know nothing about re-mapping.

 

I beleive what you have read to be wrong thats all mate, and just explaining why I believe that, I'm not calling you a cunt or anything.

Although obviously you still are one

 

I am Chip, many know this to but that doesnt bother me.

 

big debate on what power the RHD M3 Evo has, remap is meant to get anywhere between 7-15bhp. Looks like you just have a good one

 

Don't exagerate mate, I only called you a cunt, I didnt call you the biggest cunt on here

 

Least we agree on something

 

if the map could get another 15bhp couldn't the filter get another 10-15?

thats sounds reasonable to me

 

re-map and filter wont give massive gains onthese. Whats Bunter. Most evo's make 300-310 standard.

 

You think the standard BMW filter restricts the airflow by as much as 15bhp?
Do you think that the M division are idiots?

Surely they would have spotted that error during the multi million pound development program trying to extract power from the engine?

 

we have had some of them m3 evo;s in and make around the 300 -310 mark
as std

 

Now now Chipper you must be more carful before bouncing off the handle like that, you seem to be replying to a statement I made but I for the life of me can't find that one in my quoted text?

Maybe you should re-read the thing and find the big fucking question mark at the end of the sentence

whats wrong with asking a frigging question? You need to get laid or something chip unless you are as quick to jump on your mrs as you are me

LOVE YOU


(awaits a 10 page back pedal/letter by letter disection of my post)

 

Yeah i agree. Need major mods to up that to 340/

 

All I did was ask you some questions to get some background on why you were asking the questions you did, ie if you hadnt stopped to think about quite how highly developed the M cars are in the first place, was just trying to help you learn a bit thats all as asking people questions and getting them to think about the answer often allows things to sink in better than just telling them.
Not sure why you are so upset at me taking the time to ask you some questions aimed specifically at benefitting you, especially given that you are ranting and raving about how its ok to ask questions

 

what make of rollers was the first 1 done on?

 

With that power curve, looks like it is still making power...bet you could gain another 5-8bhp just by pegging the limiter back a couple hundred rpm. Probably gain more than that by pegging it back a bit more than that but I don't know how many rpms that engine will take on stock parts..

 

Looks like it has just levelled out there power wise, and the torque has just started to drop off at the same rate RPM is increasing, so next step would be for it to drop by more I would expect.

I doubt more rpm would equate to more BHP, but it would certainly equate to more useable area under the curve that would be great hauling you out of a bend without having to change gear etc.

Likewise though I dont know what RPM they are safe too, but I would be amazed if it wasnt at least 8K

 

when my 3dr was stage 3 spec I literally wipted the floor with my cousins E36 M3 EVO and I was only on lo boost set at 18 psi.

Even my cousin couldnt believe it and was proper gutted - this was from a second gear rolling start - admittedly he had the jump as I was waiting for my turbo to spool up but as soon as it did it was bye bye M3

Had I used hi boost it would have been even more embarassing.

321bhp as std they are defo not.

 

You canot start that debate. driver etc, u had a run on him etc etc etc. Leave that there.

Heres the Next

Dyno dynamics and Mahal



John Nobles

 

I would imagine that the reason the E36 boys have the hump is because it is widely known that they very rarely make their quoted power, so it looks like you have an exceptionally good one .

The best filters are proported to release 7-15bhp on these cars (the carbon Gruppe M ones), so with this and a remap, you have the top end of a "good" car, hence why they are so upset, as a normally (because they are so down on the claimed factory output in the first place) a remap and filter tends to give the car what it SHOULD have had from the factory .

 

actually if you read my post he had the run on me as we were both in second gear and both planted when he said go. He got about 2-3 car lengths in front and then it was all over

 

I raced my mate evo 9 gt with 360bhp 340 l/bs. And theres nothing in it. Mine pulls away from 110 onwards.
But i dont want this thread going off topic. So end that there please.

I agree Mike, Car ran 341 then i filter and decated it, remapped it and got 346 ha ha since i have put the cats back on cos of a horrid rasp, but feuling at lamba .85 so take it to .90 may see a few more bhp maybe!!!!!

 

no probs - i shall it leave it there.

With regards to the filter, decat and remap where you not gutted you only achieved an additional 5hp for a what I assume a fair cost of mods?

 

They're 316bhp as standard, 321 ps, also that's for left hand drive, we get different downpipes that give less power.
So these 2 together you can see why they never make 321bhp.
Not seen any make 321 even with the mods he has.
I thought it was much higher the previous graph?

Most don't make much over 300, then you had this idiot with no real mods posting up with over 10% over stock gains, along with his primary school level of communication and maturity, eventually leading to a ban.

You're right though Mike, must be one of those monday morning specials or something.

 

are talking about m_nettleship as he is not banned?

 

Thats 2 Rolling Road C4lly, Shall I take it anywere else????

The 3.0 Could make 300bhp Just, with the remap. Ive seen it done, so 200cc More, Variable valve timing on zorst to, and 600 Revs more, = 30 bhp!!!!!

 

this sounds suspiciously like the old "380 brake by just using tesco 99 fuel" saga to me

if you read the post a few years back when this was claimed from an M3 they sort of hide the fact that it was a csl, so that made it only 20 brake to find in the first place, then they dind't tell you it'd had an exhaust fitted, or that it had been remapped, just the "it's made 380 brake simply by inserted tesco 99 ron fuel into the tank and wahey!"

so if this has made around 20 brake ontop of what it was supposed to make with the afrementioned mods, i don't see why it's nor plauseab;e or feesable to see those sorts of gains on a good base car

 

sounds reasonable to me

 

we-took-1-to-yours-standard-car-and-it-made-322bhp

 

Just to clarify:
A CSL is 360PS NOT bhp (355bhp)
An E46 M3 is 343PS NOT bhp (338bhp)

It is my pet hate people quoting incorrect factory power figures .

 

Is your spacebar broken?

 

oh lol.

 

ok, so it's made an extra 25 brake, not an extra 20 brake mike

but in the scale of things, is it not a comparable assumption to make when the op has claimed his car has made an additional 25 brake over the factory quoted figures?