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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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hi all ive had my car set up and its running poor power,quick spec
stage 1 head
piper cam
vernier pulley
bayjoo chip
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front mount
mf2 5th injector
k&n
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standard t3
when it fisrt wen on it was 240 bhp @17psi but really lean,when he sorted the fueling out the power just kept coming down,the boost just drops straight off wont hold,it finished off at 170 bhp @17psi,
any answers would be much appreciate as its doing my head in.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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what you using for boost control?
sounds similar to mine with a bleed valve fitted- needs proper boost control imo.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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ive no boost control,its on a bleed valve.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mat35
hi all ive had my car set up and its running poor power,quick spec
stage 1 head
piper cam
vernier pulley
bayjoo chip
-31 actuator
front mount
mf2 5th injector
k&n
exhaust
standard t3
when it fisrt wen on it was 240 bhp @17psi but really lean,when he sorted the fueling out the power just kept coming down,the boost just drops straight off wont hold,it finished off at 170 bhp @17psi,
any answers would be much appreciate as its doing my head in.
170 sounds about right with the spec,though am baffled why u have a 5th injector at that level of tune,240 is never gonna happen with 17psi on a std t3
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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First run probably had wheelspin. There is no way it'd do 240bhp with that spec.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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what sort of power should i be looking at,since all the work has been done the car does not feel over responsive on boost,the tuner says the turbo seems lazy when spooling,and why is the boost dropping straight off.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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the 5th injector was to help with the fueling
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Yeah as above 170-190bhp on a stock T3 is normal, the boost is dropping off presumably as the revs increase yes?
This is beacause as the RPM goes up the amount of air flow needed from your T3 to hold any given boost pressure increases, and as it is a stock T3 on an engine with a ported, cam'd head, it cant do 17psi.
What is it holding, 11/12psi?

A upgraded T3 is your answer
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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cheers karlos,yes its holding that kind of psi,what upgrade of turbo am i best looking at.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Yeah thats what I expected...
Stage 2 or 3 T3 is what you want mate, just be aware that the Stage 3 will be laggy on a little 1.6 making peek boost around 3700-4000rpm, so really depends on what you use your car for, IMO stage 2 is perfect for daily driving.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Yeah thats what I expected...
Stage 2 or 3 T3 is what you want mate, just be aware that the Stage 3 will be laggy on a little 1.6 making peek boost around 3700-4000rpm, so really depends on what you use your car for, IMO stage 2 is perfect for daily driving.
full boost is more like 3000-3500rpm

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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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JamoRST Is that on MFI??

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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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all i want to do is maximise what ive got for now,and as its on mfi ill be looking to change everything in a couple of years.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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where the best place to look for a stage 2
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
JamoRST Is that on MFI??

Yes
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mat35
where the best place to look for a stage 2
Turbo Tecnics or CR Turbo's, just google them mate.
Originally Posted by T28 RST
Yes
Thats impressive, the two engines i've had Stage 3 T3's on never made full boost that early, but then they were running a Kent CVH 35 and a Piper 285T2 which didnt help!
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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My ex _standard_ t03 made 15 psi of boost at 2800rpm no problemo and it held it until limiter. But i recommend turbo & managment upgrade too.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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I recommend vince @ http://www.crturbos.co.uk/ I get all of mine from their, best service ever, tell them your spec and what you are after and they will built it to suit
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by T28 RST
Yes

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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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Matt35,

Also try http://www.shepherdmotors.co.uk/services.html as they are really helpful and tell you like it is.. Also they have built some nice motors with differing stages of turbos so know what they are talking about and the best thing of all they are quite reasonable not cheap but cheap enough.

Barney
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G

Thats impressive, the two engines i've had Stage 3 T3's on never made full boost that early, but then they were running a Kent CVH 35 and a Piper 285T2 which didnt help!
that was with my newman cam

heres the graph before i got my newman with a piper 285 t2


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