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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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going to buy a puma 1.4 getting for a cheap price as the keys been lost,also the engines nocking and going to have to replace the cars going to cost me £250,any one advise me what engine will go in them and anything about replacing the key thanks peeps.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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1.4,1.6,1.7 zetec SE were the standard fitted engines.

If theres no key then you need ford diagnostics to program you a new one due to the PATS.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Best bet is just whacking in a 1.7. Make sure it's come out of a similar clocked car. i.e Analogue/Digi.

If bottom end of 1.4 is knocking, not even worth replacing bearings, just bin it.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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if your robbing an engine out another car, rob ECU, engine loom, and the red chip from key.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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the bottom ends deffo gone they have it started on another key but carnt lock doors,was just going to pit another 1.4 in been offered one out of a fiesta 1.4 for 175 suppose to be the same.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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you saying the engine starts but the central locking wont work???? if so you already have a pats transponder for the car. does the key manually open doors and ignition??? if so its just the remote thats failed, probably battery or maybe the alarm module has died. (alarm is independant from PATS).
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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New battery then there is a trick with the ignition which should sort the key.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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what he told me was the car came in for a mot and the key was lost so he had to buy it of them,the bottom end was nocking already so he got a seconhand one which he put in but that nocks to ,he got a key may be with that engine but he told me not to lock doors as he couldnt open them.doesnt have alarm button with it as its lost to.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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take out the door lock barrel, dismantle it and work out the tibbe code then get a new door/ignition key cut. Then look up the remote programming sequence.

regardless of the status of the remote key, you will always be able to lock/unlock manually as long as you have the matching key.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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dont know anything about a tibbe code but going to buy it anyway if i get a new remote from ebay will i be able to program it and how.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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what is this key you have attached to??? is it a plain key or a 2 button remote???

You dont need a remote to lock/unlock the car as long as you have the right key.

Good guide to the ford/jag tibbe key system: http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/doorlockbld.htm
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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well got the key and brought it home need to mot it and just give it a quick clean engines bottom ends nackered but will fix soon ,bargain for 250 pound.need to sort the alarm as i have no alarm fob.

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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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going to put new shells in the bottom end 1.4 focus engine whats the torque settings anyone no.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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thats tidy for the money top job there the bodywork looks immaculate and thats always the most expensive to fit, just drop an engine in it and job jobbed
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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bean offered a 1.4 06 engine to go in it how do i know which engine will work with it mines a s reg,anyone help.just in case he only had the engine no ecu with itor wireing
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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erm so what keys do you have and what does what

It looks like a S plate which makes in an early puma with a 2 button infrared alarm system.

You dont need the remote to operate the alarm. Turning the key in door will do just the same. for example if you want to deadlock it, turn key to unlock just before turning to lock and it will dead lock and flash indicators which tells you the alarm is working.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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oh and whats the engine from?? if its a 1.4 zetec SE engine then it should be a simple swap.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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yeah warren it a 1.4 out of a fiesta 06 car ,only got engine tho,got the two keys i have already set the alarm off but didnt know how i did it thanks for the great advice as how to alarm it,
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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do you have one key that will start car and do doors/alarm etc?? will both do it??

I dont know if ford have changed the sensors or design on the zetec SE over the years but id check. Worst case id of thought is swapping over sensors etc from old engine to new.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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decided just to put another 1.4 in carnt find a puma one theres a fiesta with one in on a p reg but has high milage any one help me out.
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