Is there anyway of telling what spec your engine is without stripping it?
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i dont know the spec of my bottom end, so how can i know for sure other than stripping the head off and sump off to check what pistons and rods i have?
want to know as i want more power and be told i need stronger rods and forged pistons to cope with the extra power, but dont want to purchase these to find out that my engine already has these.
want to know as i want more power and be told i need stronger rods and forged pistons to cope with the extra power, but dont want to purchase these to find out that my engine already has these.
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no need for one of those it's just a gimmick tool, just do a compression test for the pistons & drop the sump pan for the rods (do the compression test first, because if it's standard your most likely have standard rods as well)

there are plenty of piston/rod combinations that will have the same compression results
I do agree the only way you'll know for sure on the rods is to drop the sump though.
Last edited by Chris69; May 31, 2009 at 10:40 PM.
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as i said in my post earlier the best way to do this is to do a comp test, also different makes of piston even if they claim to be the same ratio can read different so...
also rods don't have anything to do with compression in your earlier post you say you have no idea how to check the rods, then in your next post you do somehow do
How on earth do you think you can determine what pistons are in an engine by simply doing a compression test?! Just because you know what compression they are that's not gonna tell you if they're forged or the make etc......there's only one way to find out what's in your motor mate, drop a rod and piston out and have a look!
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A compression test will not tell you the commpression ratio of the engine or what the intended compression ratio of the pistons is.
You will need to remove the head and measure the compression ratio to find out what you want to know.
You will need to remove the head and measure the compression ratio to find out what you want to know.
so you think it's not a gimmick tool... do you own 1, i'm betting you don't, because even if you had 1 bet you couldn't tell what make the pistons were in the motor, if they were different (i can do these checks with basic tools, don't need some Ł300 tool to check these 2 things)
as i said in my post earlier the best way to do this is to do a comp test, also different makes of piston even if they claim to be the same ratio can read different so...
also rods don't have anything to do with compression 
in your earlier post you say you have no idea how to check the rods, then in your next post you do somehow do
as i said in my post earlier the best way to do this is to do a comp test, also different makes of piston even if they claim to be the same ratio can read different so...
also rods don't have anything to do with compression in your earlier post you say you have no idea how to check the rods, then in your next post you do somehow do

I do not own one but i buy them in and use them in work all the time and to look at more difficult things than wots written on the top of pistons
straight back at you
some garages have them and good ones at that hence it was a suggestion without taking the head/sump off as that was the original question- read it some time why don't you
Last edited by Chris69; Jun 1, 2009 at 09:22 AM.
so you think it's not a gimmick tool... do you own 1, i'm betting you don't, because even if you had 1 bet you couldn't tell what make the pistons were in the motor, if they were different (i can do these checks with basic tools, don't need some Ł300 tool to check these 2 things)
as i said in my post earlier the best way to do this is to do a comp test, also different makes of piston even if they claim to be the same ratio can read different so...
also rods don't have anything to do with compression 
in your earlier post you say you have no idea how to check the rods, then in your next post you do somehow do
as i said in my post earlier the best way to do this is to do a comp test, also different makes of piston even if they claim to be the same ratio can read different so...
also rods don't have anything to do with compression in your earlier post you say you have no idea how to check the rods, then in your next post you do somehow do




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Ok so its a case of finding out the compression and say if that was 120 psi for each piston then would that mean i have standard pistons? or would it mean standard compression ratio; which sounds about right.
but the onyl way is to ubdo the sump to find the rods! dam! thats going to cost abit of money and time!
but the onyl way is to ubdo the sump to find the rods! dam! thats going to cost abit of money and time!
Ok so its a case of finding out the compression and say if that was 120 psi for each piston then would that mean i have standard pistons? or would it mean standard compression ratio; which sounds about right.
but the onyl way is to ubdo the sump to find the rods! dam! thats going to cost abit of money and time!
but the onyl way is to ubdo the sump to find the rods! dam! thats going to cost abit of money and time!
Lets says its stock pistons, fresh engine would be about 175psi but an engine thats done 200'000 miles would be about 90psi, so knowing your compression is pointless unless you know what it should be as a reference then at least you will learn what sort of condition your rings/bores are in from it.
Dropping the sump wil cost you about Ł10 for a sump gasket and maybe 2 hours of your time at the most.
Last edited by Karlos G; Jun 1, 2009 at 03:58 PM.
Ok so its a case of finding out the compression and say if that was 120 psi for each piston then would that mean i have standard pistons? or would it mean standard compression ratio; which sounds about right.
but the onyl way is to ubdo the sump to find the rods! dam! thats going to cost abit of money and time!
but the onyl way is to ubdo the sump to find the rods! dam! thats going to cost abit of money and time!
Nope, ignore the guy above saying you can tell from that, you cant.
there are some brainiacs in this forum how the hell can you tell what pistons are in an engine from doing a compression test
a little knowledge makes some big bangs
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