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620 had 2 different engines, ones a rover and they also had a honda engine that was always cracking cylinder heads




fook me im getting old to know that

 

One engine on the Ti and it was a Rover

 

the 620 ti had less horse power at 180bhp
and the tomcat had 200bhp as standard

the engine mounts are the same ( i think) and i know the tomcat has an oil cooler mounted at the back of the engine not sure on 620

also there differnt mangagement aswell this decides what the best engine is

early 620 with dizzy are strong engines with crap management late ones are the other way round coil pack is choclate pistons

what are you looking to do with the engine

 

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im sure theres 2 engines, a guy at work had the cracked head and got the wrong one for it, cost him 400 quid too


on a p plate if i remember

nice cars, half leathers, full electrics,


now i know im getting old

 

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read whjat i just posted mate

 

620Ti was same engine as tomcat 198bhp. Heavier car tho, had one lol

 

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Indeed, here's the UKcar rundown, although it says 197

 

Its not a K series engine either, nothing like it.

I know a few poeple with 620Ti's, nice cars.

1bar boost, filter, and full exhaust, and they go some, no need for a chip.

Ast Ian@Racetek, hes got one of my mates old ones

 

Turbo was a "T" series engine, still a Rover that was used in all models

 

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You building a Maestro Shings to compete with the TOTB one

Pipe and slippers next

 

http://www.roverpower.co.uk is the only forum i can remember, there are about 2 half decent rover forums if i remember rightly.
T16 turbo is the engine in the tomcats, 220GSI and the 620 Ti i believe,
weak point is meant to be the gearbox if you up the power.
There are a few different T series turbos,
T8 8valve on Su's (one of the original MG turbo engines)
T8 8valve on injection (later MG turbos)
T16 16valve injection (the last T-series turbos and most powerful)
The rover 200's came with k series, t series and honda engines, i would have thought there would be plenty of scope for putting the engine into a smaller car
hope thats of some use Jake! should be a fun project!
(i quite fancy a 220GSI myself, proper sleeper! (read grandad car )

 

And the Rover 800 Vitesse with the same 2.0 Turbo`d engine will cost you less than £500

 

The residuals are awfull on Rovers. An associate of mine has a 620Ti on a N plate and it was purchased a few years back for £7000 he thought it was the bees knees and would whoop anything and claimed many scalps of Cossie's Evo's and Scoobies. This was until another friend of mine actually got his Scoobie and the Rover looked like it was in reverse Being a talkative chap (i.e full of crap ) he tried to trade his 620i in against a Skyline saying he wanted £4500 for his Rover with it's huge mod list (17's and a dump valve) he nearly cried when they offered him just £1000 trade in on it. Even after throwing toys about they would only go to £1150.

In the cars defence though it is comfy, easy to drive and not too unpleasant to look at and is actually acceptably quick. It's not the Cossie, Evo, Scoob killer my associate made it out to be but for a car of its size it's not bad at all

Stick one of those motors in a Metro and think how much fun you could have

 

i Had an 820vittesse turbo, they did 2 spec engines(same engine though), one was 180 bhp the other was 200bhp, i had the 180 bhp version and it was great, one of the biggest pains with them is that they pull the threads on the exst manifold and usually its the one under the stat hsg that is the first to go, the g/box's $hit themselves if you up the power too much mine made 220 bhp in the end and i ate 2 gearbox's (albeit with some seious launching).

If you need to speak to somebody, then i can highly recommend motobuild as they always gave me loads of free advice and there supply of parts was 2nd to none

HTH

Pugo

 

i have a 220 gti in my garage at the moment , its not the turbo model but it will be as soon as i can find a donor car they are nice to drive quiet and comfy but in standard form they are as boring as hell
heres another forum you can get info from , its almost as bizzy as pf
http://forums.mg-rover.org/forumdisp...daysprune=&f=1

 

www.rovertech.net/forum - good pleace to start Jake..

 

my old mans got a 620ti... pretty quick car. not got the torque or urgency of his cosworth but pretty good all round.

its got a bit of a top end tap on it now. and its difficult to get engine info for rebuilding and the like.

heard lots of problems about the rover gearboxes, but hes been ok so far.
the 620ti has a torson(?) lsd diff in it, and for a fwd car its pretty good for putting it down. (ive seen 0-60 figures goign about ranging from 7-8 seconds - which is pretty good going)

isnt it the same engine that andy nicols used inhis maestro? so ultmately the potential is there still.

 

I use an 800 Vitesse Sport ( 200HP ) as an everyday car and its feckin sweet , not a quick car by any means due to the weight but its defo a motorway bruiser

I had on before that had done 180,000 miles and was still going strong until the gearbox went and I just couldnt be arsed to repair it

So just bought another one as they fookin CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAP

 

the 620 ti code name is T16, it'll run 12psi without being chiped.
the best rove site is www.rovertech.net speak 2 a guy called grant and he'll be able 2 tell u every thing

 

Andy Nichols is the Guru of all things Rover, he lives in my home town in Nth Lincs

He has a 600bhp FWD Meastro which is the fastest road legal FWD in the UK running 11's he has won TOTB, and Pod for the last 4 years running.

He does engine builds on the side, do a search for AN Racing

There was a link from the 200+ website

He now works for AET turbos in West Yorkshire.

Give them a call.

 

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be aware that there are 2 different 800 turbo models. one is 18x bhp and the other is 200!

can't remember which model is which though

 

I seriously looked at rover turbo stuff a few months back...

the 620 is the way to go as tomcats are well expensive!

But I didnt becasue the head gaskets are weak and the gearboxes even worse!

alex

 

You wanna get an old 200 Vitesse EFI.. Class car. Seriously!

 

Ish ,

Its the Vitesse Sport that has 200HP

 

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used to be an engineer at rover so should know. K-series only went to 1.8. It was then the T-series for 2.0 and turbo versions.

The engine mounts between T and K share no resembalence so its not a direct swap if you wanted to bin the K for a T.

T series is good but watch for the sticking valves. This was cured by changing them for sodium filled versions, but only some were done on warranty. ECU is capable of handling a little boost tweek but not too much, should be good for 15bhp, but careful of the turbos as they were on there boost limit as standard so this is probably your weak point.

Apart from that its a good engine. used to love it in all cars especially the tomcat. Used to think it was v quick until i beat one easily in the cossie

 

there is a boost cut out in the ecu's at 1 bar. You will need to chip it if you want to go past that point......I believe stu does a chip for these Not much point running past 13psi with these anyway because of the turbo's, fitting a T28 is the way forward !

Klinger headgaskets are also a good idea but then again I never blew a standard one when I was running 15psi for a couple of years.

Duncan

 

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on the t series the headgasket doesn't blow it just leaks. this was cured on later rover turbo's by them using a klinger head gasket. this is not an uprated gasket just an improved one that shouldn't leak!

 

www.rovertech.net is the best forum around for rover turbo's especially Ti's

 

as well as the mg maestro T16 (11.96@ 130mph) Andy Nicholls has also built a rover mg/ 25 with the T16 engine in it (12.1s 128mph), a 220 Turbo hatch (12.8s 120mph), a 12.7s rover coupe, and a 13s 620ti. he's currently doing a 420 turbo for a guy.


07980 721718 is his moby number!
rgds
chris