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Vauxhall in big trouble

 

Nightmare.

 

Thing is all the manufactures are struggling ford included!

 

Credit crunch.

 

My mum works in a ford garage, they are still selling alot of cars, I have seen quite alot of 09 plate cars too, so it cant be all that bad!

 

I can reasure you it is mate!GM and ford where losing money are a stuoid rate even during the boom period!We had over 50 cars waiting to go out!

 

Yeah only brands hovering above the crunch are Audi/BMW/Porsche just the Vauxhall nuts have been banging on about Fords drop off the market for ages now...karma's a bitch

 

if we can bail out the banks then i carnt see why we carnt take care of the vauxhall plant.......not for gm's sake tho,but for uk workers......

 

Ford US (the parent company) is doing fucking awfully, they are losing billions left right and centre.

Same as GM

 

Every vauxhall nut I know has been long since aware that GM were in trouble, its not exactly been a secret!

 

So jag, landrover and all the others Ford own, are they doing badly too?

 

Yes, especially in america, which was always a massive market for jag

 

Ford don't own Jaguar.

 

Dont they? I understood they do, I can get the privaldge club on brand new Jaguars because my grandad used to work for Fords, same applies for Volvo, Landrover and all the others which i cant remember at the moment!

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7313380.stm

 

I find they conveniently forget GM when they start throwing Aston & Jag into the Ford situation...Holden to the rescue hopefully lol...

 

Forgot all about that!

Thats one less thing left for ford to sell off to try and stay afloat then, lol


All going to be down to the US government now I suspect!

 

no more badly modified corsas driven by chavs?

 

It wont effect that for many years even if vauxhall fold tomorrow as those arent new cars anyway IME

The chav's will still be there though, they'll just drive saxos etc instead, like all the other chavs do, the corsa's only 'crime' (like the saxo) is to be a good value car with good performance potential on a budget.

 

My bad, I never knew they sold Jag let alone Landrover

 

yeh but will be a right fooka to sell with no valuee?

 

I think in truth there are far too many vauxhall/opel's on the road for it all to go tits up

 

surely if a company can sell as many cars as they do and still go bankrupt theyre doing something drastically wrong and arent worth saving?

 

its probably not the vauxhall/opel side that is draining it,it might be hummer,saab,corvette etc!

 

look out the window mate, theres more audi/golfs than the vauxhalls being sold,,, there was another car company that was "never gonna happen" aswell a few years ago

ford also have been loosing money and ford europe has been subsidising them for years,, now ford europe is in trouble and ford us cant use em to prop them up

the only hope i can see is the parts excemption is not being renewed in 2010 which mean that car companys dont have to warrant any non main dealer parts even though they are made by the same people just boxed different and also they dont have to allow aftermarket access to there computers ect to turn off warnings ect with vidis units ect,,, means alot of garages who have the snapon/vedis machines are gonna be screwed over too as most aint aware of it happening

that means that for the first 3 years main dealer work only for warrantys

 

in all truth imo i think thats the way it should be!then after the 3 years its fair game

 

In the US, car manufacturer is horrifically inefficient at both ford and vauxhall, every car they sell over there costs them more than they get for it essentially is the problem I believe.

 

Hense why more and more manufacturing is moving to places like Thialand and china where they work stupid hours and get paid peanuts. Literally

Watchin the news last week they showed the ford plant in Cologne. They couldn't produce the new fiesta quick enough to keep up with demand. This was due to the Genman government givin cash insentives(about Ł2500k I think) to chop your old motor in for a new one

 

why,, main dealers charge too much per hour, get the aprentice to do the work and then charge for loads of little things that dont need doing,,, they charge for time on jobs that dont take that long, theres alot of bills on stuff customers dont want and the MAIN reason is they dont even make there parts anymore,, the contract them out to save money to other supplyers/manufactuers so why cant someone buy the SAME part for cheeper and get a mechanic to screw on a oil filter/change the air filter and plugs from a reputable garage with a mechanic who prob started out at a main dealers anyway just so when the window regulator fails hes covered under warranty or when the cambelt snaps hes engines warrantied

if main dealers never never ripped people off for YEARS before the block exemption then the wouldnt be in the trouble they are in now,, charge people 350 quid to change pads and discs when the parts cost 40 quid to have MADE FOR THEM then charge 3 times that to the customer, then labour ONTOP of that

wonder why main dealers are failing ??? GREED has killed the car industry from all sides,, the government/main dealers prices/credit companys who generaly are the main dealers "finance" company with there interest rates and design of cars with comon faults and not fixing them but rather making the parts for when the warrantys expire for them to get richer

 

theyve got to pay for all those fancy new glass showrooms and greasy knobbers in suits somehow.