Whats pay like for normal IT type jobs?

 

What's a normal IT job? Job definitions get more and more granular the larger the company you go to. Like, a Technical Architect is a 'normal' IT job in a company large enough, and that could be paying up to Ł120k!

If you mean something like helpdesk work, then I dunno, Ł16-25k on a perm basis? Contract rates have dropped up to 50% in the past 12 months though

 

 

I was contracting a couple of years ago when the rates were good but have been advised that rates have dropped a little. (still not thaaat bad). Our contractors here are still on the same money though. Perm. rates arent much different if you put all your benefits / bonus / pension / holiday into the equation. (I work in 2nd/3rd line desktop support).

chris

 

I do 2nd line support at the moment, but its for a single product, that no one outside of estate agency will of heard of lol.

I have no IT quals (like mcse etc), so maybe now's the time to do something about it!!

 

Didn't you ask something similar around 6 months ago, or was that someone else?

 

I asked about courses, but not about working in London. I've never had a reason to consider working in the South.

 

me and there is no guide

too many different jobs. desk support around 20k i would say.....

Lucky im a fair bit higher up the ladder though lol.

 

I earn more than Ł20k here in the North lol

 

stay where ya are then

 

Touchy!

 

what and you sit on a desk resetting stupid people A/D account credentials???

Whats youre job title. day to day duties? If you earn a lot more than 20k up north you are doing very well....

 

Depends on the nature of the firm you work for as well. Desktop Support is over double Ł20k at my place!! (investment bank).

Chris

 

precisely!
and if you work as part of a server team it doesn't necessarily mean more money.
I'd argue that the systems my team (desktop engineering/infrastructure) manages are at least as complex as most of the server stuff, and hence should command equivalent money.

 

its ALL about working for the financial sector if you do IT in London........

i dont think id bother other wise unless you had a really easy commute

 

saphhymike hows the linux coming along?

 

cfoster I need a job on the desk at youre place lol...

good luck to all you guys that can get it. Infortunately i have no mcse, all home taught and am earning 33k which is good in my line of work.

also in my career the possibilities are endless and if i was sitting on a desk dealing with stupid office workers it would drive me crazy. (i see it everyday)

 

Agreed,

I'm in a law firm on 1st / 2nd line support and earning well over 30K before bonuses

EDIT only qualification was an IT degree, no MCSA etc, first job out of uni

 

all you first line support people on 30k+ should count youreselves very lucky then and hope youu dont get made redundant.

Heres a link to various jobs which prob dont exist at the mo anyway lol.

http://www.reed.co.uk/Job/SearchResu...1&FromSector=1

 

1st line support is notoriously known for poor pay even in london.

lots of jobs vary between 17-22k and youve got at least 2k travel that a lot have to pay out of there own pocket.

 

LOL.

I earn Ł22k doing second line support. Not massively over Ł20k, but over it lol.

SpeedX - poorly since my Linux PC decided to die a death and I've been too busy to replace / repair it

 

Ouch, pisser. Is living cheaper oop north?

 

im not having a dig at anyone guys.... Dont take it the wrong way, Just a lot of my mates are in it helpdesksand they all lie about there wages.

So its just something im touchy on.

I take my hat off to all of you on plus 30K for doing it support.

And 40K jesus..... I hope to earn that sort of money one day.

 

i would say that 1st line (and i mean REALLY basic) you're looking at 20k minimum in the financial sector.
i know people on 60k + 30%ish bonus, plus all the usual healthcare, pension etc etc doing what amounts to nothing much more than 3rd line desktop support.
I'd suggest starting out on somehting like 2nd line support if you already have some skills, get your head round some of the more market data related stuff and the general environment in this sector and then look to move into a more infrastructure based role if you can.

one thing to bear in mind is that most of the really good jobs never get as far as Jobserve ime. they're already gone to skilled people ion the market place before there's any requirement to advertise.

 

what in youre consideration is 3rd line support though mark? Day to day duties etc

 

im on reasonable pay, im not going to say how much cos it don't really matter as I will always spend what I earn.
The perks my company give me are what makes me happy day to day, they simply treat me so so well and the opportunities here are massive.
I honestly love coming to work and you are really privileged if you can say that as you spend so much time there

pm'd you mike

 

just spoke to someone on helpdesk here and they are on 24k just for resetting AD password and logging calls if its all too much for them!

 

Wow the way you were going on above I thought you were some kind of european IT director for a large corp!! Ł33k is fairly basic salary for anything but helpdesk in London..

 

lol exactly pa so when people say that sort of money for logging calls makes me laugh and I wouldnt say its that basic.

no It director. Im sure id have more than an x5 if i was Lmao.

Also get a lot of perks. upto Ł1000 bonus per quater which i get maximum every quarter. Go abroad with the company for the long weekend every 6 months all expenses paid.

i love my job so would never leave anyway.

 

I do I.T Depot Support and im struggling to see over 16k, no bonus, no overtime and no yearly cost of living rise.
Unfortunatly im self taught and have no I.T qualifications and there is sod all jobs on offer up my way at the moment.

 

Like people said above, get in to finance or Law

I cant seem to move up to 2nd / 3rd line without taking a pay cut unless I go for finance, but I dont have any finance experience so would be hard to go in at that level imo

 

The credit crunch is a pain in the arse though.. this is the first year i've not earnt 6 figures for a while

 

you dont need experiance, so long as you're not thick you can pick it up as you go

 

lol Pa Sjo well we all dream of one day being on youre level.

porkies will do me though....... he dont boast about it.

 

The 'boast' was deliberate.. you insulted many peoples jobs and pay levels above and then you're only on 33k yourself!

 

how did i directly insult anyones pay...

And so was mine as so many first line desk support earn 20k and tell everyone they earn 30K.

im more than grateful and very pleased with my salary for my age.

As im sure eveyone in this post is or they wouldnt do the job that they do.

you dont consider 33k + 4k a year bonus a lot of money... Lots of people do....

you are obviosly a long way above mere mortals like myself.

 

When I say 3rd line I include in that the more infrastructure related things the team (of 4) I manage would look after.
In addition to the fact that "the buck stops here" as far as any desktop related issue is concerned, we're responsible for application packaging, deployment, removal, (approx 1500 applications over 2000 production nodes in london plus 2 BCP sites with another 400 nodes or so), license compliance, the look and feel of the desktop environment (fairly restricted in our case here), patching, reporting, hardware and software upgrades, desktop security including forensics, anti virus, IPS, and management/maintenance of all the various applications that we use to look after our desktop infrastructure. No doubt there's plenty more to add but that covers my day so far today!

 

P.S. also design, comissioning and implementation of all the systems that we use to configure/support/maintain this environment.

 

and you manage them.... so you are the last line of support. That must be a tough job.

and the 3rd line support can earn between 40-60k? What quailfications do they require?

I would imagine a degree.

1500 apps i would imagine could be a bit of a headache over 2000 users (if thats what you mean)

 

Id be more than happy to earn 30k let alone 33k with a 4k bonus up this way.