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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Default Croft Circuit Loses Noise Appeal

Defo more to this than meets the eye

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/new..._noise_appeal/
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Jesus, the groups founder that runs the track was married to the bint who got 40K. Smacks of something a bit sinister. They are not going to be popular people round that neck of the woods.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Not good at all
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Hell hath no fury like a women scorned lol
clearly after divorcing 14 years ago it's nice to see she has moved on and they get on so well as friends now roflol

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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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If you read the comments underneath, someone from croft says they tried to get palnning permission to turn there property into a hotel, wouldnt have complained about the noise then would they, they would have benefited from people staying there who were visiting croft
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
Hell hath no fury like a women scorned lol
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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story i heard was that the couple had the circuit and the house in question and when they divorced she took the house and he took the circuit,, and gave him greiff about the noise ever since
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewg
story i heard was that the couple had the circuit and the house in question and when they divorced she took the house and he took the circuit,, and gave him greiff about the noise ever since
I'm glad I didn't own a race circuit
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
I'm glad I didn't own a race circuit

cous half would be the ex wife now
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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or just let her take it!!
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by T3ORA
cous half would be the ex wife now
and so would half the fine and legal fees but a scorned women isn't bright enough to work that out lol
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A racing circuit in northern ireland (Nutts corner) was made to close or stop most of the motorsport including the rally cross just becuase basically a judge moved nearby and complained about the noise. They tried putting a bank to deflect the noise but it didnt work. If he didnt like the noise why the hell did he move near a racing circuit.
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Originally Posted by daviddunlop83
A racing circuit in northern ireland (Nutts corner) was made to close or stop most of the motorsport including the rally cross just becuase basically a judge moved nearby and complained about the noise. They tried putting a bank to deflect the noise but it didnt work. If he didnt like the noise why the hell did he move near a racing circuit.
because the house would have been cheap and now it is worth alot more
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
because the house would have been cheap and now it is worth alot more
Hardly fair on the people who just want to have a good time on the track tho. We have very few tracks over here now
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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you are not allowed to have a good time in life are you deluded roflol
you only have to look at happy gordon
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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its not good news for them

our show will still go ahead as planned on the 6 & 7 th june

with strict noise curfew after 9pm !!!!! ( dont fancy him suing us as well ! )
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Has evey last bit of common sense left this country, absolute joke! Audiable nuisance! Surely everyone who lives near a road has to put up with the same sound, are we all due damages? bollocks!
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Some sort of legal framework needs to be put in place for this sort of thing. Maybe a clause in the contract of buying a house that states that you know its near a race track and therefore give up the right to complain about it.

Its utterly crazy.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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fucking rediculas. we shud all caterpult shit at her windows the greedy bitch.
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
Hell hath no fury like a women scorned lol
clearly after divorcing 14 years ago it's nice to see she has moved on and they get on so well as friends now roflol
This is why "a woman scorned" should be a recognised mental health condition requireing compulsory hospitalisation under Section 3 of the MHA to protect those around her!!!
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its not good news for them

our show will still go ahead as planned on the 6 & 7 th june

with strict noise curfew after 9pm !!!!! ( dont fancy him suing us as well ! )
Solution to that is everyone drives past the bitches house revving like a twat or antilag all night long. As long as its driving on the public highway its not crofts problem!!!!! Drive the bitch insane!!
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Was gonna say the same kind of thing. If I didnt live on the opposite side of the country id be there late at night keeping the stupid bint awake...
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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What a joke croft has been there for years.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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just heard it on the local news a terrible result, let the floodgates open to all the residents of croft now..

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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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The objection by the Watsons and Mrs Wilson was not to car and motorbike racing events, which take place on the track on about 45-50 days-a-year, but to "vehicle testing days" and "track days", when members of the public drive cars around the track all day long at high speed.
What the hell is the difference?!
If anything the days they object to would be quieter with fewer traffic and more road going cars on the track.....
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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i notice they are a ltd company so doubt that company will be paying that bill they lease the site
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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well lets hope this is not a trend all the tracks end up geting hurt by

else it will be back to the street racing
should get a big meet on the road that they live on ce if they complain then
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Skotie jay
should get a big meet on the road that they live on ce if they complain then
Problem with meets is the feds will section 59 or take your car

Driving past loudly is much harder to police unless a cop car parks outside thier house permenantly!!!
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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true warren thats is lol
but they aint had mine off me yet haha
an ive had them moving every one off an then come chat to me bout the car not even bothered that i was there lol.. I love the old fords
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They should feel privileged to be able to hear that noise a lot of the time
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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get top gear on the case i reckon
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Looks like a restriction to just 40 days per year

With 33 days in the race calendar that leaves just 7 days spread througout the year for testing / trackdays and other motorsport activities

Not good for any circuit in the country, not just Croft.

Infact I bet other 'sports stadiums' around the country have been watching this case closely too.

You watch, once all the football stadiums have been closed down, then all the outdoor rock concerts kaiboshed we will all be sat at home twiddling our thumbs posting on forums about the 'good old days'

Sad day for an imoral victory.
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lets arange some nice illegal street racing, then we can moan like fuck that all the circuits have been closed down ,,, that 2 now up here this year ,,,,, AGGHHHHHHHHHHH
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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It's rediculous, they knew they lived near a racetrack. If they didn't like it they shouldn't have bought the house. Fucking knobheads.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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most disturbing , is the fookers who made this silly decision,, where do they find these out of touch legal eagles.... fooking beyond me
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by xr_craig
It's rediculous, they knew they lived near a racetrack. If they didn't like it they shouldn't have bought the house. Fucking knobheads.
Craig, They have no complaints over the circuit, just wished to restrict its use.

The family feud between the daughter (still lives in the house) and her ex husband (leaseholder of the circuit) seems to be now sadly hitting us all

As said there is more to this than just 'noise'

Clive, These out of touch legal eagles have been on the case since 1996

It seems its finally been brought to a head with the 40 day ruling being granted.
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heres what our local news had to say about it..






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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tangodeltasierra3
get top gear on the case i reckon

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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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And here is all the legal stuff reported Steve

Claimants - http://www.richardbuxton.co.uk/v3.0/?q=node/334

Appeal Overuling - http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2009/15.html
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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cheers tony, I had read the original ruling but not the appeal,.
Can't see how the track can be viable with the costs to pay and the very limited usage allowed.

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This really has pee'd me off to say the least. I've enjoyed so many track days at Croft in the Pug and now if I want to use my car I'll most likely have to go all the way to Donnington or Knockhill. Isn't there anything that the general public can do in cases like this?

Croft do introduction track days for kids when they reach 13yrs old. I had promised Kai thats what I would buy him for his 13th birthday. He was absolutely gutted when we saw the news last night.

How old are the people who brought the case against Croft. If they are in their twilight years do you think that after they have snuffed it they might be able to resume business as usual at Croft That is if the circuit survives that long
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