Whats about the max boost you can run a standard T3 at?
I need a new turbo but we think mines stage 2 and holds 15psi but I know of a standard T3 for sale. If this will hold around the same boost I'll just buy that.

 

you can run as much as you like, but how long for is the question!

a t3 can handle 15 psi no problem

 

Had a standard t3 on my S2 some years back, had done 85,000k and held 21psi round Donnington no problem!

 

Whats the difference with a hybrid T3 then?

 

21 psi you must have been flying!!!!!

 

Well i wasnt hanging about thats for sure, nailing the Type-R`s like they were standing still, added a bit of Toulene to the fuel also to raise the Octane level! Nice!

Basically, a Hybrid can include a 360 degree thust bearing along with modified compressor/exhaust wheels etc to create a Turbo that is more reliable and has the cabability to push more airflow.

 

dont let karlos G see that!! according to him a standard t3 cant do any more than 11psi.

 

Your kidding???? Even my M-Reg escort diesel i had ran 11PSI standard on a snail sized turbo!!!!!!

 

ive got a stage 2 whats the most boost i can run... safely

 

my stage 2 is quoted by turbo technics as capable of up to 24psi, if thats any guide for you dude

as for safely, i wouldnt like to say myself lol

 

would be nice to see tho wouldnt it

 

Providing you warm the car up/shut it down correctly/change the oil regulaly and it is set upcorrectly a reliable 20psi is achievable in my opinion. My T3 used to glow so white hot you could see the exhaust fan spinning but i always used to chill out about 2 miles from home and let it cool down then idle before shut-off. If these rules are followed you will have no problems

 

Mate if you actually understood what you were talking about then maybe you should comment, but seeing as you dont.......... you shouldnt!!

In answer to Adams question, it depends on the spec of your engine mate.
But what you should be asking is how much air can a stock T3 flow and so how much power can it produce?

CrazyCage will not agree with me here but i'm just quoting what Chris from TOTD told me and what Christian @ APT and Stu @MSD have also said which is that a stock T3 is good for about 180bhp -190bhp.

So you can listen to what 3 reputable tuners say or listen to Crazycage who for some reason seems to think he knows better!!

 

im seing 267 on a standard t3 in a 2.1 zvh at 17psi

 

Mine peaks at 14psi and holds at 12psi and that's on a standard t3 turbo from when the car was new but I've only had my car chipped about 7 months ago so not sure how long it will last but still pulls fine with no problems at all.

 

FPMSL!!
Yeah well i've seen a 933bhp on Fiesta Turbo bored out to a 3.5 litre running a stock T2 @ 3psi, monopoint injection!!!!!

EDIT: Unless of course it's a cossie T3? But this thread is about a stock ERST T3.

 

Yeah rite.

 

to quote such a specific power figure I assume you have graphs you can post right?

 

as above depends on condition of the turbo

 

Mine peaks 18psi and holds 15.

 

One of my old erst's standard engine except cam, peaked 17, held 15 & made 197bhp, i've had others with the same spec that can't pull 180bhp.....
standard T3 should be good for an 18 psi peak!

 

Mine may be a standard T3 on it's limit then! it hits 18 psi and holds 15. Thats prob why its broke

 

what cam you running mate?


would any of you believe me if i told you my mates S2 1.6 made 230bhp on totd rollers a few months ago and that was on a std turbo peaking @ 18psi! without nos!

 

20psi easy

 

As you have not stated the spec of the engine or the management used in this instance.
You also failed to state if this 230 was at the wheels or flywheel

So to answer in similar vagueness to the question... Possibly

 

18psi without hurting it

 

Theres a old post on here or in general discussion about the Performance Ford S2 running 258bhp on a standard turbo, Jamsport Head & Matched Manifolds (standard ones), 285T2 cam with a Pro Alloy Cooler and Gotech.

It did 258bhp on 19psi with a standard bottom end and standard turbo. Got the magazine with it in too.

Couldnt see how a standard turbo would flow enough for that power but there was a massive debate on here about it with the PF boys saying it was definitely true.

 

yes good reply

standard bottom end and head, std management, but what obviously helped ALOT was the piper 285T2 and figure was at the flywheel. would have been godsmaked if that figure was at the wheels

 

karlos id keep it shut unless you are a tuner. are you. you will look like a dick when i find the print out oh and im assuning it never run a 14.0 down the quarter mile with massive traction loss i also have a video on photoshop and you can see the dial gauge in the back ground so it shows how much you really know doesnt it.

gavstili, its a power engineering cam big valve head ect

 

the bhp figure is the dial on the right it only reads 240, sorry to dissapiont the ones who know

 

To be honest a dial whizzing round proves very little, its very easy to change what information these display. A graph displays so much more information.

 

as said i will get the graph up when i find it but why would i lie???

 

Not i'm not a tuner but like i said above i'm quoting 3 reputable tuners Stu from MSD the creator of Passion ford, Christian from APT very well known on here and also Chris from Torque of the Devil!!
So it's not what i really know it's what they know and i'm sure thats more than me, you and most of PF put together!!

Like i also said in my post and almost every other poster after me if thats a standard Escort RS T3 then it's not possible!!

The only person that will look like a dick is the person quoting stupid power figures from a pathetic stock T3

If a stock T3 could hold 17psi and make 267bhp on a 2.1L then why did Ford fit a bigger spec'd T3 to the 2.0L Cossie's?????

 

hey like i said i got the proof. thats what it was rr'ed at. id admit i was wrong if i was but thats what it was rred at so i would shut up. please feel free to make more excusse if need be. fpmsl

even if it was only 182bhp it done a respectable 14.0 down pod i really am not bothered

 

I'm not calling you a liar, trying to piss on your parade, or any other bollocks! I'm just saying that a Stock T3 from what i was told by 3 good tuners cant do it!

If it is a T3 then it must be Cossie T3, thats the only explanation!

 

ok thats fair enough but as far as i was aware its standard t3 erst are there markins or size differences that i can check?

 

I've never seen a Cossie T3 in the flesh so dont know, but i'm sure something will be different if you knew what to look for.

Like you say it produces the power/speed that you want so it doesnt really matter, I was just trying to help Adam by answering his question about what he can get out of a stock T3.

 

 

run 20PSI on a T3 and standard bottom end all day long

 

in Carls case all day long but only for a matter of days hahaha