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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Bit unfair really, Im sure there are lots of children who would be very happy to live in a "normal" environment. What do you think?
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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If they let themselves get like that & dont do anything about it & think that its normal then they obviously cant look after themselves let alone a child.

Just look at that program that was on the telly the other day!!

I'm sorry to say I certainly wouldnt want a kid that I'd given up to adoption to end up with people like that!!
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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He's not fat he's just big boned

I see what your saying but surly a child would be much happier with chunky parents than with abusive parent or being pushed around foster homes.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Watch out for another half ton son !.. !
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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thats fair enough. loose the weight then there wont be a problem

last thing they want is kid going to a family where the parents might peg out or cant do half the stuff parents should do
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Well what more of an incentive does he want to loose some weight ?
1" taller than me and double my weight
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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They've told him to reduce BMI from 42 to 40, not that he just can't adopt.

IMO, if they really want kids he'll do it - which will be good for him, and all us tax payers.

Bloody good kick-up-the-ass idea I think!
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Originally Posted by Kamike
He's not fat he's just big boned

I see what your saying but surly a child would be much happier with chunky parents than with abusive parent or being pushed around foster homes.

Precisely.

They are potentially depriving a child of a loving home simply because he's overweight. Yet they seem to happily leave children in abusive homes with their biological parents.


Yes he needs to lose weight for his own sake but it shouldn't be a prerequisite to foster children.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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I just dont see why he has to loose weight,or is it because the kids they are trying ti foster might come obeast.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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I think it wrong, any fat fucker, drugie, alchie, etc the list goes on is allowed to have childeren if the are able to concive but this couple can not due to being overwieght. Bit backwards really
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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It's not as if he's that overweight that he cant get his arse out the chair tho is it now if he was then i could see there reason why
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
I just dont see why he has to loose weight
Because he's a fat c nut.



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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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if the bloater wants a kid that much, get on a diet and give the weight up
If you cant make sacrifices for children in your care your going to be a very poor parent anyway imho
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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If he cannot be bothered to loose weight, then I highly doubt he could b bothered to be a good parent either.

If he looses weight it will make him healthier anyway. Win win situation.

Well done to whoever made the decision in this PC day and age, where normally you can't say boo to a goose
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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So over weight people are bad now, How many parents are there on this forum 100's maybe and i bet at least a few are over weight does that mean they shouldnt be allowed to keep there kids?

Im not saying he shouldnt loose weight but to take some one of the list just for being over weight is mad. There are far worse reason not to allow couples to adopt imh

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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good idea imo
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat C*nt
It's hard to lose weight under pressure, " he told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"I'm not a couch potato and I don't sit eating takeaways every night."
A = its only him thats putting the pressure on him
B = its not that hard to loose weight. all it takes is motivation to not have that extra box of cakes...
C = surely wanting a kid is going to be motivation
D = they could both do with loosing a few rolls
E = it was on MEDICAL ADVISE - that says something, get over it or get on the tread mill
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F = if i walk our dogs, i can either walk round the park, or sit down and do nothing but throw a toy for them... can you guess which he must be doing???

i know its harsh, but surely its a sign of the times thing - like jeremy kyle. the gene pool is getting shallower every day. atleast it makes it easier for people like myself and most of you to get along in life...
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamike
So over weight people are bad now
its not overweight thats bad. its "morbidly obese with a BMI of 40 or more" that is bad...
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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I dont see how being fat would make you any worse at being a parent than a skinny person
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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its not about being a bad parent. it would appear to me that they are worried he will become ill or worse, die of a heart attack/stroke due to his weight, which would put strain on the family and probably mean the kid would be given back to social services. this could mess the child up properly for life beign thrown about left right and centre...
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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I didnt see it from that angle and i kind of argee with that but it is still really harsh
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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typical uk media printing bollox again
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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A parent is a roll model.
So find parents to PUT kids with should consider this, nerver mind all this crap about you can't say this you can't say that shit.
Adopting parents IMO should be fit, healthy, non smokers, supporting themselves and of sound mind
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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so on the flip side of this all the people saying they shouldnt be aloud because there over weight, do you also think we should put kids in homes if there parents are over weight because theres very little difference apart from ones biological parents and one isnt.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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You can't stop people conceiving and having their own kids provided they look after them well thats fine, but to be finding homes for children that are not with their natural parents surely we should look for the BEST possible.
Some of these arugents are
And just because many many parents are poor role models does not mean we should deliberately put children with these types, the best possible is what should be looked for in all aspects. Hence my previous post that smokers should not be allow to adopt IMO.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Thing is if you're choosing parents, you're going to set out to make tham as ideal as possible.
14 year olds and alcoholics etc, as mentioned can have children, yet we'd be up in arms if these were adopting.
You need boundries for fucks sake, some big fat cunt who could drop dead at any minute due to all that strain on his heart, is not ideal for an adopted child, don't need the brains of an archbishop to see that...

How many saying it's wrong would employ someone that size if they had a small business?
I wouldn't for fear of sickness and not being physically fit enough for certain aspects of the job if physical, which being a parent is.
Time to be realistic, it's not always good to stick up for the fat guy.
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one of my freinds is adopted and i know of people who adopt but what people are saying (not all) if your a skinny crackhead your laughing if your an overweight church goer your f**ked, know wonder this country is in trouble, im not having a pop at anyone just my opinion

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Spelling like that this country is fucked
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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hmm can see both sides of the argument, hopefully he will lose the weight and everyone wins
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I think its fair enough TBH

Personally I think that having a BMI over 40 should exclude you from all help on the NHS too other than weight loss advice and accident and emergency treatment, and I think you should be banned from busses and planes too.

Ive pretty thoroughly beaten anorexia myself, so its not like im against people being a chubby, but its disgusting letting your BMI go over 40.

We really need to send a clear message to people, that being morbidly obese isnt acceptable.
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I too can see both sides, Where as it's not PC to say he can't have kids cause he's fat, bein' fat IMHO tells me he isn't going to put in the work to be a parent. I mean his track record shows he likes to slob about..........

Anyway, the bit i find disturbing.... In the video around the 2min mark, he mentions that "this has more or less pushed aside his emotional desire to look after children".

Someone has only called him fat and now he's not interested? Kinda throws up the question of should he be havin' kids in the 1st place? A child is for life, not just for christmas.
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A child is for life, not just for christmas.
The way that guy eats, I reckon even a fairly large child would only be for xmas and maybe boxing day.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
The way that guy eats, I reckon even a fairly large child would only be for xmas and maybe boxing day.

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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he probably only wanted a kid so he could send them to the pie and cake shop so he wouldnt have to get up of his own fat arse himself.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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God help anyone who is unable to exercise etc due to say disabilities, and puts on weight, maybe they should also lose their kids.
I am 21st 9lb, 5' 9", but active, and can do gym, with masses of problems physically, but some cannot.
For 12 years I was told my back pain was due to weight, but then they found a damaged(constricted) spinal cord, and oddly enough now I have had an op and take tablets it's gone, but my weight hasn't.
This BMI is a load of crap, the human being has been getting larger taller wider since this BMI stuff came out, but they don't want to rewrite the books do they, bit like when they found "extinct" animals, or proved history wrong.
If he can lead a normal life then why shouldn't he be allowed to adopt, I bet they'd run a mile from turning him down if he was BLACK and obese.
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I bet they'd run a mile from turning him down if he was BLACK and obese.
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Being THAT disabled they wouldn't dare
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thing is he aint just big boned he is visually heavily overwieght, regardless of what BMI tables say (but i agree BMI tables probably need to be updated as humans evolve).

Over BMI 40 its called "morbid" obesity for a reason. Theres valid health reasons for him being banned temporarily on health grounds. those health concerns are a by product of being so overwieght not the sheer fact he is overweight.

TBH this is going to happen more and more in various aspects of social care and education over the coming years and thats because the government is so aggressively committed to beating the obesity epidemic this country has.

Lets be honest, heavily obese parents arent setting the right example to kids. Im not convinced they have the knowledge to provide a healthy balance of diet and exercise for thier adopted child, otherwise they wouldnt be obese now. sure if they change thier lifestyle then thats a different matter.

Quite frankly its a problem the government needs to be pushing onto parents for setting the example just like the government should be pushing discipline as a parenting issue rather than something parents can disregard and assume schools will sort out.

I suspect politics will fuck it up in some way and youll have teachers suspended for being too fat etc
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Quite right. I still think the fat cunt should lose even more weight if he wants to adopt!
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Originally Posted by Kamike
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7823707.stm
Im sure there are lots of children who would be very happy to live in a "normal" environment. What do you think?
Youre right there are children out there that would love to live in a 'normal' environment... unfortunately TOO many!

Originally Posted by Lee_R21Turbo
I'm sorry to say I certainly wouldnt want a kid that I'd given up to adoption to end up with people like that!!
Well... if you were that concerned, you wouldnt give the child up in the first place... and if you WERE givinga child away, you would have no say in where they are placed, permanently or temporary.

Originally Posted by Kamike
He's not fat he's just big boned

I see what your saying but surly a child would be much happier with chunky parents than with abusive parent or being pushed around foster homes.
Spending a great deal of my life in Care, i would of much preferred a FAT parent who cares for me, than a healthy freak who cares more about themselves, than the child they are supposed to be looking after, which sadly is all too often the case in this day and age.

Originally Posted by -MAL-
They are potentially depriving a child of a loving home simply because he's overweight. Yet they seem to happily leave children in abusive homes with their biological parents.


Yes he needs to lose weight for his own sake but it shouldn't be a prerequisite to foster children.
I couldnt of said it better myself!

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I dont see how being fat would make you any worse at being a parent than a skinny person
As long as he is still active, neither do i i!

Originally Posted by tabetha
God help anyone who is unable to exercise etc due to say disabilities, and puts on weight, maybe they should also lose their kids.
Wrong isnt it!

People are still quite capable of leading a perfectly normal and reasonably healthy life even when morbidly overweight!


Stuff like this really annoys me..., i had carer after carer after carer, who did it either for the money, or because they felt they 'had' to. I can genuinely say i didnt have ONE single carer who who fostered because they wanted to better my life or help me in anyway. One even drove me to a suicide attempt, when i was only 15, because i was made to feel so worthless.

The social workers dont particularly care either, so when a complaint is made, they either disregard it, or it takes ages to go throught the paperwork 'system'

So seeing someone like this who has a genuine desire to want to improve a childs life, and they cant simply because theyre a little overweight..... quite honestly just disgusts me.
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Originally Posted by Ridgey
A parent is a roll model.
he would roll alright
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